Since I missed the commission meetings tonight, I am counting on you all to send in comments and tell me all about it.
What I heard so far is that Kristen is unhappy because because sharpshooting is off the table. YAY! WPXI was at the meeting. I missed the 11:00 news on WPXI because I was watching WTAE. I couldn't watch the 6:00 news, but WTAE aired their story at 6. If readers can find the reports online, please send them in.
I am really looking forward to watching the videos tomorrow. Until then, tell us what you know!
Update October 28, 2014 1:24 PM The videos for the two commission meetings are now available for viewing.
October 27, 2014 Commission Discussion Session
October 27, 2014 Commission Meeting
Update October 28, 2014 2:09 PM I want to share a voice mail that was left on my home phone on 09.10.13 from the Pittsburgh Food Bank. I had left a voice mail asking about the Food Bank's requirements for accepting deer meat (venison). Unfortunately, he thought I was considering making a private donation. Kristen, you were caught in another lie. Do you know what is the truth anymore, oh fearless leader? See the 41:18 time stamp of the commission meeting.
The commission meeting was packed with deer and anti-turf people. The Kodak moment was when Kristen walked in and saw a packed, standing room only meeting.
ReplyDeleteMs. Linfante was visibly upset because she couldn’t get her way for how to get rid of the deer. They couldn’t agree on anything, some wanted sterilization, some wanted sharpshooters, some wanted bow and arrows, some just sat there and gazed.
ReplyDeleteMt. Lebanon gives new meaning to the term Keystone Cops. How on earth did these people get elected.
ReplyDeleteThe discussion meeting tonight was an absolute joke. The meeting started almost 20 minutes late, the deer presentation was supposed to start at 6:25 but didn't start until around 6:45 and went way, way, way over time. The problem primarily was that the so-called expert who was there to give a presentation had a tough time answering simple direct questions and didn't help to lead the commissioners down a sensible path which left the commissioners to make decisions for themselves which they have a tough time doing. Kristen wanted sharpshooters, Dave was opposed to it. They couldn't even decide on taking the next step. So now the deer issue will be moved to the next meeting.
ReplyDeleteI hate to be so critical, but this community is in real trouble with this crew.
Nick M.
These people got elected because of apathy and a constituency that was complacent that the PIO dispensed the true story.
ReplyDeleteHopefully, people will vote this election cycle and get involved with finding competent candidates for the spring primary.
Hopefully it won't be too late to turn things around.
Don't forget who endorsed the people currently serving.
Why hasn't John Grogan said anything about cancer and turf?
ReplyDeleteHere's how I sum up the meeting:
ReplyDelete1. About a third of the contingent was there to make sure the commission put a line in the budget to deal with the deer. They stood up every time a pro-deer management person talked. It appeared that in the discussion meeting Kristen was the lone-wolf on allowing high-powered rifles being shot off feet from residents home. The community owes Commissioner Fraasch a debt of gratitude for introducing a viable option for deer management other than shooting. Without her up there, the deer would be getting shot already.
2. The anti-turf contingent was slightly larger than the anti-deer contingent. Kristen, when she tried to correct a resident, suggested that zinc was harmless as did Dan Deiseroth (guy from Gateway). Kristen said zinc was only harmful to aquatic life, not to humans. Hard to follow her logic. Dave Brumfield, wow, his comment that he is not forcing parents to choose to play on turf or not was perhaps the most outrageous of the night. He IS absolutely forcing kids off the fields in Mt. Lebanon. He is forcing a choice on parents that they shouldn't have to make. And Silverman, that ridiculous waffler hiding behind the EPA to suggest that he is fine with his ridiculous decision. Steve, how many people that live next to the field, that will be most impacted have asked you to vote for this? NONE! But now you want to say you will listen to residents when it comes to deer? Steve can't even give a yes or no answer on whether he still supports the project. "My answer is clear" he said instead of "yes".
To the commissioners...it is OK to admit that you made a mistake...despite what Brumfield said (that the commission knew about the UW Cancer Story before even NBC did- yes he said this) there is new information, new anecdotal linkage between turf and cancer.
Do the right thing and plant grass there again.
Who could forget the guy who suggested putting plastic bags over the heads of deer shot with tranquilizer darts?
ReplyDeleteI wish I had a bag to give him last night.
Was anything said about what this project will finally cost? The revisions, required by the DEP, are quite costly. Kristen won't budge, huh?
ReplyDeleteMay I remind the commission of the first presentation dated 11-6-13? See page 13 of the pdf. Initial cost provided by Gateway Engineers - "Turf and organic Infill $490,000." Total cost was to be $999,770.
http://www.mtlebanon.org/documentcenter/view/9773
ORGANIC INFILL
Elaine
This comment was submitted to me via email.
ReplyDelete"From a World Health Organization (WHO) report on zinc in drinking water:
Carcinogenicity
One study with rats given zinc ethanoate (1.5 g of zinc per litre) in drinking-water indicated that there was an increase in the number of metastases following the intravenous injection of cells from a benzpyrene- induced sarcoma (23).
2EFFECTS ON HUMANS
Nutritional zinc deficiency in humans has been reported in a number of countries (24–27).
Acute toxicity arises from the ingestion of excessive amounts of zinc salts, either accidentally or deliberately as an emetic or dietary supplement. Vomiting usually occurs after the consumption of more than 500 mg of zinc sulfate. Mass poisoning has been reported following the drinking of acidic beverages kept in galvanized containers; fever, nausea, vomiting, stomach cramps, and diarrhoea occurred 3–12 h after ingestion. Food poisoning attributable to the use of galvanized zinc containers in food preparation has also been reported; symptoms occurred within 24 h and included nausea, vomiting, and diarrhoea, sometimes accompanied by bleeding and abdominal cramps (1).
Manifest copper deficiency, which is the major consequence of the chronic ingestion of zinc (13), has been caused by zinc therapy (150–405 mg/day) for coeliac disease, sickle cell anaemia, and acrodermatitis enteropathica (28–30). Impairment of the copper status of volunteers by dietary intake of 18.5 mg of zinc per day has been reported (31). Zinc supplementation of healthy adults with 20 times the recommended dietary allowance for 6 weeks resulted in the impairment of various immune responses (32). Gastric erosion is another reported complication of a daily dosage of 440 mg of zinc sulfate (1). Daily supplements of 80–150 mg of zinc caused a decline in high-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels in serum after several weeks (1), but this effect was not found in some other studies. In an Australian study, no detrimental effect of 150 mg of zinc per day on plasma copper levels was seen in healthy volunteers over a period of 6 weeks (33).
Acute toxic effects of inhaled zinc have been reported in industrial workers exposed to zinc fumes (1); the symptoms include pulmonary distress, fever, chills, and gastroenteritis.
In a small-scale study on zinc-refinery workers, no evidence was found of increased mortality from any type of cancer (1). In subjects with low baseline levels of serum zinc, no significant difference in the risk of death from cancer or cardiovascular diseases, as compared with those with high baseline levels, was observed (34).
This topic was completely avoided last night by the municipal engineer and the commission."
Elaine
Who supported Brumfield for Commissioner?
ReplyDeleteCan we take anything they say or advice they give worth a grain of salt anymore?
They won't be getting my vote Nov. 4th.
8:33 AM, it doesn't matter. There is no opposition. You can thank the Republicans and Independents on this one.
ReplyDeleteElaine
Dr. Steinhauer recommended the schools maintain cancer-causing turf.
ReplyDeleteBrumfield absolutely and articulated stated that allowing their children to play on the turf is a choice every parent can make themselves. I am not you-tube tech savvy but clips like that need to be put up on Youtube and transmitted to the world.
ReplyDeleteAfter a brave HS student spoke in opposition of turf, Brumfield jumped at the opportunity to get a word in, likely believing that no rebuttal would be forthcoming. He advised that he decided artificial turf was safe enough for his kids when they were in 1st grade. Therefore, it is safe for the rest of us. If we don't like his justification, we can choose not to put our children on the fields. This is just about the lamest, most shit-for-brains argument I have ever heard and can't believe it came during a public meeting from the mouth of the person pushing this project the hardest. First, Brumfield isn't exactly a beacon of health-consciousness and I wouldn't trust him to make decisions for his own kids, let alone mine. Second, it shouldn't be the public who must find alternative fields to play on, it should be the few who want to play in the rain. Don't forget, this is a public park. No one is stopping anyone from buying private land and paying to have the turf installed with their own funds and for their own use. The issue is that they've attempted to do so with public land and public funds to benefit a private cause.
ReplyDelete- Barry Biocides
I am a parent and I accept that challenge from Brumfield. My children will NOT participate in Mt Lebo sports again. We will no longer coach any of the organizations either. I hope that other parents who are unhappy with the turf field also make the decision to enroll their little athletes in sports in other communities also.
ReplyDeleteAlso, it was nice of Slippery Steve Silverman to join us midway through Citizens Comments. I hope he had a nice nap. The only thing worse than being the Town Slouch is failing to own your vote. Steve, you voted for it- now explain to your constituents why, or at least be man enough to answer a damn yes or no question. If you don’t want to be a Commissioner anymore, then resign! Your body language coupled with your inability to answer simple questions, let alone pay attention to what’s going on indicate that you’re not cut out for the job. Step down before anymore damage is suffered under your watch.
ReplyDelete- Watchful Willy
Elaine, to answer your question about the final cost, the answer was no. I don't think they even care about the cost, they just want artificial turf no matter what the cost. Knowing that these folks don't believe in being fiscally responsible, that is why I am demanding the contract between Vasco Sports and Mt. Lebanon. Unfortunately it will be up to the citizens to hold the contractors, engineers and commissioners accountable.
ReplyDeleteNick M.
http://www.thealmanac.net/article/20141028/NEWS/141029940
ReplyDeleteElaine, it is irrelevant to bring up No republicans or independents running against Brumfield etc.
ReplyDeleteThe issue at hand is certain people endorsed and supported Linfante, Brumfield, Bendel and Silverman.
Let me try to explain it this way.
Someone recommends a restaurant to you and based on that recommendation, you try it.
It turns out to be the worst meal or service you've ever experienced.
Would you blame Red Loster for not offering Veal Parmigiano or would you think, hmmmm I'm going to think twice before I try a restaurant recommended by Mr. So and So?
Would you might go to So and So and tell them, that was the worst meal I've ever had!
The democratic process failed us. We have written to our commissioners. We have attended meetings. We've signed petitions. We had yard signs. We insisted on having a toxicologist. We were in contact with the engineering firm, the DEP, the Allegheny County Conservation District, the DCNR, Clean Air, PA Historical and Museum Commission, the Mt. Lebanon Historic Preservation Board, the Mt. Lebanon Environmental Sustainability Board, the Mt. Lebanon Parks Advisory Board, the Sports Advisory Board, the Nature Conservancy, the media, our state representative, and our state senator. We have asked for balanced information from our Public Information Office. I have published every conceivable document available for this project through Right To Knows to spread the sunshine.Now I get delays from the manager saying that a legal review is necessary. I never got that from other government agencies. Anything I asked for was handed over in five days or less. The commissioners were elected to represent their constituents. Prior to the vote, our bloodthirsty dictator put into writing that there will be three votes for artificial turf, so the turf project will pass. When asked, she will tell you that they were elected to "make the tough decisions." Was that really tough? A tough decision would be to recede and reseed, Kristen.
ReplyDeleteIn one of my interviews, I said that I was disappointed with the whole process. Corruption is thriving in our little bubble. The democratic process has failed me. It has failed many.
Elaine
According to The Almanac—
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thealmanac.net/article/20141028/NEWS/141029940
Brumfield said...
“A lot of you who haven’t researched this issue as much as we on the commission have probably found it quite frightening,”
HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT A LOT OF US HAVEN'T RESEARCHED THE ISSUE AS MUCH AS HE AND HIS FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE?
QUANTIFY THAT COMMENT DAVE, MAYBE SOME OF US HAVE RESEARCHED IT MORE!
Linfante said:
"... that the turf product Mt. Lebanon selected satisfied standards set by both the Environmental Protection Agency and California’s stringent Title 22 regulations."
AFTER YOU READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE YOU MAY NOT WANT TO PUT BLIND FAITH IN THE EPA LIKE LINFANTE!
http://www.asbestos.com/blog/2012/09/17/why-isnt-asbestos-banned-in-the-united-states/
"Did you raise your eyebrows when you heardasbestos is not banned in the United States? For many, the news comes as a complete shock.
The countless industrial uses of asbestos were well-known for more than a century, and the material was incorporated into hundreds of household products. From shipyards to factories, everywhere you looked there was a practical use for asbestos.
Then people started to get sick.
It started with miners, followed by factory workers. Unknowingly, asbestos workers were bringing toxic fibers home with them on their clothes. Also unaware of the dangers of asbestos, many consumers fell ill from exposures to asbestos-containing products.
And they kept getting sick.
We now know for certain that all forms of asbestos can cause lung cancer, mesothelioma and other chronic respiratory conditions.
It wasn't until the early 1970s, however, that government agencies like the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) were created to limit exposures to asbestos and other toxic pollutants.
In 1973, under the EPA's Clean Air Act, most spray-applied asbestos products were banned for fireproofing and insulating purposes. And in 1989, the EPA issued the Asbestos Ban and Phase Out Rule, which hoped to impose a full ban on the manufacturing, importation, processing and sale of asbestos-containing products.
Unfortunately, in 1991, asbestos industry supporters challenged and overturned the ban in a landmark lawsuit: Corrosion Proof Fittings v. the Environmental Protection Agency. Although the case resulted in several small victories for asbestos regulation, the EPA ultimately failed to put an end to asbestos use."
SO IS THIS WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE ARTIFICIAL TURF INDUSTRY?
(The EPA might be failing us as well, Elaine)
Senator Smith, Representative Miller
ReplyDeleteWe need a bill like Maryland's and we need it NOW!!!
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2014RS/fnotes/bil_0003/hb0123.pdf
Maryland House Bill 123
"This bill prohibits the use of State and Local Program Open Space (POS) funds to build new or replace existing athletic fields with artificial or synthetic turf surfaces."
"This bill takes effect July 1, 2014."
Isn't this interesting?
ReplyDeletehttp://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2014RS/bills/hb/hb0809f.pdf
Commissioner Fraasch was pretty smart calling for a Roll Call Vote on the artificial turf!
I added links to the videos from last night's meetings. Check the update.
ReplyDeleteElaine
Dear _____________ Association,
ReplyDeleteI am accepting Commissioner Brumfield's challenge and because of the artificial turf project and my concerns about the health and safety of my children and others I will be removing my kids from sports-related activities through the association and recreation programs in Mt Lebanon.
I had no choice when it came to my taxes paying for this project and I had no choice when you removed my child's money from years of fundraising for your association into private portion of this project.
Therefore again, I am accepting Mr. Brumfeld's challenge and removing my children from sports related activities in Mt Lebanon.
Having a much lower turn out of kids playing wouldn't be a bad idea. If words, studies and common knowledge won't make them budge what about hitting them where it hurts. Associations that got us in this mess and Township that continued the slippery slide.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to the ground breaking?
ReplyDeleteMatthew Santoni @msantoni 24 minutes ago
ReplyDelete.@KellyFraasch asks staff for alternatives to crumb rubber turf infill before Nov 11 vote on 'budget cleanup' for muni money going to turf.
I left while they were heading into votes. I would have stayed if I would have known but it was late. What does this mean?
October 28, 2014 at 7:53 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
7:53 AM, It means Kelly doesn't want our kids to get cancer.
October 28, 2014 at 9:15 AM
Elaine, what does this mean? Has anyone contacting Kelly today and asked her directly?
Somehow a lot of people forgot how our political system works. We have elections. Signing petitions, going to rallies, ranting and raving at commission meetings is not the way the system works. Next election run for the office or back someone you agree with. Making a lot of noise between elections accomplishes nothing.
ReplyDeleteThank you for clearing that up, 2:19 PM. I had no idea. Silly me. The commission and school board should consider eliminating the Citizen Comments portion of their meetings. It would make meetings so much shorter. Thanks for the tip.
ReplyDeleteWe should forget ranting and raving, Lebo Citizens. Obviously, back room deals are the way to go.
Elaine
Hey 2:19.
ReplyDeleteYou're wrong on so many levels. Our elected officials aren't free to do however they please between elections and citizens have a right to interject themselves into the process. THAT MY FRIEND IS HOW THE POLITICAL SYSTEM IS SUPPOSE TO WORK!
Does the phrase "of the people, by the people and for the people" ring any bells?
Here's one specific of how the people are still in charge.
Check out Section 1005 of the Home Rule Charter!
Section 1005. Officials with Personal Interest in Contracts
It states:
"No Commissioner, nor any other officer or employee, shall participate, directly or indirectly, in the making of any contract on behalf of the Municipality for goods or services in which he is financially interested to any appreciable degree, except for the services for which he is specifically retained."
Gateway contributing "private" money to ensure the turf project got its required donations violates the intent of Section 1005. Gateway wasn't retained to see that the financing of the turf project were met. Gateway was retained specifically to engineer the project-- not help finance it.
They are in violation of Section 1005! If our state elected officials had any integrity they'd be calling the Attorney General right now for a ruling.
Echo. Echo. Echo
ReplyDeleteDear 2: 19,
ReplyDeletePetitions do work in Mt Lebanon but not for everybody and for every issue (remember who we are dealing with here?).
But I suggest getting really fired up before you submit one to the Commission.
Petitioning is also featured in the home rule charter. You can read more there.
Elaine, maybe 2:19 pm is telling us that back room RTKs are the way to go? Just blame the referees.
2:19
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, we cannot all vote. Legal residents who are not citizens pay the same $$ in taxes but do not have the right to vote. So we do need rallies, petitions, and commission meetings to allow our voices to be heard.
2:19, hate to burst your bubble, but if the residents weren't showing up at commission meetings expressing their concerns about the deer situation then the commission would not have taken action to have meetings and bring in so-called experts to give their presentations about how to reduce the deer population. I really don't understand your comment. How else do we keep these folks accountable, just wait for the next election...I think not.
ReplyDeleteNick M.
Linfante's remarks about zinc show exactly how ill-informed she really is!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2872358/#!po=0.190840
Why do we allow people like this run things?
Only when the corporate donors are identified, will we truly understand why the commissioners will not budge on the turf project. Follow the money.
ReplyDeleteElaine
I'm trying to get through the commission meeting video and almost lost my dinner when I heard the guy talk about tranquilizing the deer and then suffocating them with plastic bags.
ReplyDeleteI just don't understand how we cannot reason with the four commissioners at any level. I am highly suspicious that someone bought their way into this project. And why wouldn't Steve Silverman say yes? Thanks to those who shared details of last night's meeting. Kudos to the high school student who came forward to speak at the meeting. That was very brave of her.
So who can edit that video and put it on youtube?The nation needs to hear about our idiotic commissioners.
Elaine
Wow! Finally got through Citizen Comments. I see that another resident shared the same concern about the donors.
ReplyDeleteAlso, congrats to the resident who asked for an electronic copy of the contract and saved himself $350.
Elaine
Proud of the high school student who wasn't duped into believing in the turf.
ReplyDeleteNote to parents:
If possible, try to avoid letting your kids see the NBC News segment on synthetic turf shortly after seeing a parent supervised viewing of Erin Brockovich. They will see "chromium" mentioned in both viewings and then it's possible that they will say very negative things about the commissioners. Very.
Wonder if the "Commissioners" know that the home owners that surround those fields have obtained legal council. I smell a lawsuit brewing... Dave better RUN A group of REAL lawyers is a comin. You can't handle THAT! Just takes one water test, one thermal image, a single flood. And now the media is watching.
ReplyDeleteAny updates on Cool Springs? Will we be able to enroll our kids in their sporting programs? I've had it with Mt Lebanon's youth sports programs. From drinking in the parking lots to out-of-control coaches. I never knew so many living in Mt Lebanon were so in need for athletic scholarships. Right Dave? Maybe you should have saved some of that traveling to lacrosse game money? Maybe you can get three votes and have taxpayers pay for your kid's college?
ReplyDeleteI would encourage everyone to watch the discussion session video from 46:50 regarding the deer situation, and especially the back and forth between Dave and Kristen at the 55:15 point.
ReplyDeleteThe conversation becomes dangerous when Kristen makes the comment about kids walking to and from school seeing bow hunters as she gestures like they will be in the trees or up high. In other words the hunters with bow and arrows will be hunting for deer as school begins and lets out and your kids are walking about. This woman is absolutely crazy...and dangerous!!
This comment from Kristen comes after Dave comments about the possibility of kids seeing dead deer around. Maybe they're both crazy.
This is a "must watch" video.
Nick M.
Nick, thanks for pointing that out. So the kids walking on the streets have to watch out for hit-run drivers AND sharpshooters in trees? Man, it's a wonder these kids make it out alive from Mt Lebanon.
ReplyDelete11:37, I thought I heard her wrong last night but apparently not. I pray she's not that nuts and maybe just got caught up in the moment as Dave was juggling for words. What worries me about Kristen is how insistent she is on wanting sharpshooters with guns roaming around the community.
ReplyDeleteAlso, you will hear how Dave is so concerned about the residents of Mt. Lebanon regarding the deer. One has to wonder where that same concern was for the residents regarding the safety of the artificial turf.
Oh what a tangled web we weave.
Nick M.
It's time to remove these people from office one at a time. Bendel is the first to go since he will be running in May. Find a better candidate and kick him out. Also, Linfante apparently isn't running. Find a respectable replacement for her who actually wants to be a public servant rather than a Minority go along get along and then we have a majority.
ReplyDeleteThe time is overdue to take back our community
We need some kind of deer management so why isn't ALL the options put out so everyone can make a rational decision? Over here off Castle Shannon Blvd we have a few deer that are aggressive and I think that's what Dave was talking about. Why is this a decision that three people are making? It should be made by the whole community. Same with the mess with the schools. We invited our School Board rep in when they were running for the position. Everything said in our living room was a lie. Not a single point brought up has been kept. I hope they try for re-election because I'll follow behind with a list of those lies. Time we follow Ohio and tax increases for the schools are voted on. Time to get teachers union friends and families off the School Board!
ReplyDeleteDid I hear Kristen say Zinc isn't harmless?
ReplyDeleteHasn't she ever heard of the Donora Zinc Works disaster almost 66 years ago to the day, that killed
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/documents_from_1946_-_present/20426/donora_smog_disaster/999079
http://pabook.libraries.psu.edu/palitmap/DonoraSmog.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Donora_smog
About 20 people died and thousands became ill.
The Donora incident resulted in the Clean Air Act of 1970.
How can Kristen lie to the public and say zinc is harmless?
1:26 you're right.
ReplyDeleteThose aggressive deer have started buying cars and have taken to running down defenseless pedestrians.
Pretty soon they'll be picking door locks and attacking us in our beds.
Thank God we have Public Officials like Linfante, who is concerned for our welfare.
12:12, one of the first orders of business should be getting rid of the "We'll decide what is public information and what isn't" magazine.
ReplyDeleteIf it's such a money maker... sell it!
8:41 AM, there is quite a brewhaha over on Facebook about the PIO publishing the hit and run driver's home address.
ReplyDeleteThis is from the same woman who directed McNitt not to discuss the potential harmful effects of artificial turf. In my opinion, this is the most damning evidence against the municipality.
Elaine
The PIO published the hit 'n run drivers name AND address? That is really odd since they couldn't publish the names and addresses of the parking ticket scofflaws a few years back.
ReplyDeleteThe driver must be one of those Bottom Dollar shoppers the PIO dispises so much!
Could you publish the link to the Facebbok brewhaha, Elaine?
mtl Magazine on Facebook
ReplyDeleteElaine
1:26, to answer your question as to why the community doesn't make the decisions, it's because, as Kristen Linfante so eloquently states almost every time now, "we are not a referendum government. You voted for us to make the tough decisions."
ReplyDeleteIf you want proof as to why the decisions should be made by the citizens, you need not look much further than those big ticket items like the school, swimming pool and turf projects. And if you need more proof, just watch that discussion session video from Monday and see how well they came together on that one.
Nick M.
For me the most telling moment of where we have arrived in the politics of our municipality are highlighted during the exchange between Mr. Banks and Mr. Silverman. Not so much due to what was said between them, but more so from Linfante's reaction to the audience's participation.
ReplyDeleteLinfante is quick to admonish the audience for making comments, yet think back to how Linfante and her Roycroft cohorts made catcalls and snickered as Ms. Gillen delivered the 4,000 petition signatures opposing the HS renovation to the school board.
Somehow her behavior was appropriate then, but now she demands order.
Can't stand this two-faced, holier-than-thou attitude.
It was asked in the commission meeting "why filter for zinc?", for which we never really got an answer, except that PSU Professor McNitt (thought he wasn't a health expert) said he wouldn't even bother with a zinc filter.
ReplyDeleteSo the below link makes several interesting points.
http://www.stormwaterx.com/Resources/IndustrialPollutants/Zinc.aspx
#1. "exposure to large amounts of zinc can cause stomach cramps and anemia and also decrease good cholesteral"
INTERESTING, PRESIDENT LINFANTE ASSURED US ZINC WASN'T HAZARDOUS TO HUMANS. so much for her input!!!!
#2. "Zinc is also released into the environment through [tire] treadwear. Tire tread material contains approximately 1% zinc by weight."
So perhaps that is why the EPA demands that we properly dispose of our used tires. Interesting!
We can't just throw them out withnour normal household waste, but hell lets let our kids roll around in tons of ground up tires several days a week.
What's a little anemia and stomach cramping, right! Good cholesteral, how cares we're probably taking the kids to McDonalds for a burger & fries after the game anyway.
Yeah, Brumfield's right, he probably done more research on the health aspects of turf than anybody!
Once again, we're going off topic a bit with discussing the PIO posting the hit and run drivers name and address.
ReplyDeleteBut, maybe it is just part of the discussion about how our local government works.
Remember this Lebocitizens post?
"Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Denied!
Want to know who had over $800,000 in unpaid parking tickets? So do I. I filed a Right To Know and received this letter in my mailbox today. Outstanding Parking Tickets RTK Among other things, the Drivers Privacy Protection Act was one reason my Right To Know request was denied. "
Skip on hundreds of dollars in unpaid parking tickets--- you're protected!
Hit and Run in Lebo and we'll post where you live just as fast as our little fingers can type... unless perhaps, maybe you're from Lebo and have connections
Someone please rationalize why we're following the advice of 3 over-the-hill men and one woman who's best days of sports participation, if they ever had best days in the first place, are being allowed to spend $1 to $2 million on artificial turf?
ReplyDeleteTop athletes around the world from the NFL to FIFA don't like the stuff! It's that simple. Wildcat Middle won't be the "crown jewel" the commissioners are advertising it as!
http://womens.soccerly.com/2014/09/10/gareth-bale-rips-andorra-artificial-turf-worst-pitch/
"Gareth Bale slammed the artificial turf he played on Tuesday in Andorra for a Euro 2016 qualifier, calling it “by far the worst pitch I have ever played on.”
Bale delivered the game-winning goal for Wales against Andorra for a 2-1 victory, but he wasn’t happy about the excessive black rubber pellets that kicked up throughout the match, and the feel of the field.
“I can’t describe how bad, bobbly and hard the pitch was to deal with,” he said, via the Daily Mail."
"As the question continues to be asked — Would the men be asked to play a World Cup on artificial turf? — there’s an implicit answer from one of the world’s best players, who is outraged to be playing even a Euro qualifying opener on the plastic stuff. The answer is no."
Isn't it funny that our school district which believes it is so important to teach our kids about saving the planet, healthy habits, polution, planting trees, etc., etc., is deaf and especially mute on the issue of artificial turf.
ReplyDeleteI thought these teachers and administrators were all in it for the kids?
What, don't they care about our kids health? The environment?
These people hold degrees in science, health and physical fitness, yet they have nothing to say?!
Don't give them a healthy contract and you'll see them out on the street faster than you can say "Tom Wolf."
Wake up people!
NOBODY CAUGHT THIS BULLSHIT!
ReplyDeleteDan Dieseroth, the esteemed municipal engineer said in response to zinc that the filter probably wouldn't be needed after a year or two as the zinc would be washed out.
Is this guy an idiot or what?
The crumb rubber pellets have to be replenished year after year to keep the grass fibers standing up otherwise the turf mats down. Check out Fieldturf's own maintenance procedures.
So, contrary to the brilliant engineer new zinc is constantly being put down on the field in the form of crumb rubber.
Yeah, Brumfield and crew are so much better informed than his constituents!
http://www.fieldturf.com/media/BAhbBlsHOgZmSSJBMjAxMi8xMS8wNy8xOC8xNS8wMi81MjQvRlRfTWFpbnRlbmFuY2VfR3VpZGVsaW5lc18wNDE1MTAucGRmBjoGRVQ/FT_Maintenance%20Guidelines_041510.pdf
ReplyDeleteSee snow removal guidelines on page 19 of 28. It states "after the snow has been removed, spread ice melt or black crumb rubber over the field." that new crumb rubber will have new zinc.
As the crumb rubber washes out of the turf or is carried away in players shoes, clothes, hair it or in the drain system it will need to be replenished as well.
https://www.linnmar.k12.ia.us/files/75074FBA1E244DA8A20BD90172C7F70A/fieldturf%20guidelines.doc
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Maintaining the Infill –
Intensive and repetitive use of certain area of the field may cause material to be displaced from time to time. Properly maintaining the infill on your field is important and directlyaffects playability. Rubber infill will need to be added to these high use areas as needed. These specific areas on the field should be inspected regularly to ensure proper infill height."
4:49, that will be the responsibility of the school district to plow the snow and spread new crumb rubber. By the way, have you seen how good the high school artificial turf looks?
ReplyDeleteNick M.
For the person who asked who "talked" Brumfield into running for Commissioner... It was the former Commissioner, a RINO at best, at Church on Crystal Drive. We were there! Dave is a well known neighborhood bully. People fear his wife as she can be very nasty too. Don't you DARE step on their plans to advance their kid's athletic activities. I've seen both smile at someone when they dare to ask a question and then turn their backs and rip them apart, I've actually been one to hear their nasty comments. But you don't dare say anything. We can't afford a huge increase in our property taxes. Another thing that has been bragged about. But Brumfield does take care of his friends! Look at the County Assessment page and see for yourself. Imagine having a double/triple lot and only be assessed for a single lot. Then the house be under assessed too. Funny how the township missed that? No Newcomers hit there.
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