This is an important notice from LeboALERT.
Pool closed. Might open Tues. Dormont honors Lebo permits till 8. Show receipt for permit purchase. Rec Ctr. can provide copy, 412-343-3409 till 5 or 412-561-4363.
Commissioner Fraasch, in answer to your question raised at the March 26, 2012 Commission Discussion Session, yes, we are to go to Dormont to swim.
This could have all been avoided.
Update July 3, 2012 10:10 AM
This is an important notice from LeboALERT.
Update July 3, 2012 10:10 AM
Hooray! New pool pump installed successfully and pool is open for business as usual.
25 comments:
I don't understand-- those uneducated, slovenly yinzers to the south... you know that riff-raff we so hate crossing over our borders... can manage to keep a 1929 bathhouse and pool operating, but we the affluent, blue bloods in the bubble can't keep a 70s era one running and in pristine condition.
Who's having the last laugh.
Anonymous 5:06:
Don't forget this one about the yinzers from Baldwin (There are many Baldwin transplants living here including yours truly) and their nationally recognized $62.2 Million high school renovation project. Google "Baldwin High School Renovation Award". They have the last laugh on this one!
-Charlotte Stephenson
Why not use our pools? You already use our fields and gyms because what you have is either substandard or lacking. Makes all of Lebo's claims of superiority a little silly now, doesn't it.
Scotty Township
But we'll have little league fields with turf. That'll show those miscreants from you-know-where. Sure, I mean, their kids will be able to read and write and likely have careers. But OUR kids will be able to read playbooks, run pass routes, score goals like machines and maybe even develop a natural resistance to MRSA. Who needs SATs when we'll have MVPs? Take that, USC, Peter's, Bethel, Moon,South Fayette...!
A good read....
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-south/study-confirms-1-million-repairs-needed-for-dormont-pool-381501/
Jay Neff
Dormont can have its pool. We'll raise them a torn ACL!
As a serious note, Dormont's pool kinda stinks. It does need a lot of work.
I wonder if there was a crack in the bottom of the pool whether the parks head in Dormont would tell a commissioner that he doesn't want to fix the crack unless he gets money to do the bathhouse as well.
In MtL, we had a commissioner ask this very question about fixing the filtration system.
To Kristen's email to Elaine in a previous thread, all you need do is go to the discussing podcast and hear Kristen agree with Dave that they did not want to make a repair to the pool. Bendel sided with them as well. That is why it was not included in the final proposal by Kluck and Fraasch (the $900,000 one referred to by Kristen). It wasn't there because the three of them in the previous meeting said they wouldn't support an expense to fix the filtration system.
For Kristen to then come around and say that part of the reason she did not vote for the $900,000 plan was because it didn't include a repair to the pool is completely and utterly dishonest. It didn't include a repair because in the previous meeting Kristen made it known she wouldn't support it!
Kinda helps to get the whole story out there. Podcasts are a funny thing when it comes to knowing what someone did or didn't do.
Mr. Neff, apparently I'm missing your point.
From 'your' article: "[Dormont] Borough Manager Daniel Mator said the study, which began last February, held no surprises.
He said it showed that renovations to the 1920s-era pool [accomadates 3,500 people] could cost about $1.1 million with another $700,000 needed for structural repairs to the basement of the bath house."
So somehow Dormont proposes to fix their pool for less than what we had in undesignated funds. The bathhouse added another $700,000. Here in Leboland we're talking about a $4,000,000 renovation of a much smaller '70s-era pool.
What am I missing. You seem to be a proponent of the $1.125 million artificial turf installation.
Are you suggesting we help Dormont rehabilitate their pool so we can use it too?
Or do both the MTL $4 million pool AND the new turf?
What are you driving at?
8:13 I've never been to the Dormont pool, but a lot of our Lebo kids seemed to prefer it over ours.
Also it looks like it has a the zero entry people want for ours.
I used to take my kids to Dormont for the same reason. I wonder how many Mt. Lebanon residents are members of the swimming pool on Bower Hill. Even my son's Foster School fifth grade swim party was held there. Is that in Scott?
If you fix it, they will come.
Elaine
There are a lot of things Lebo used to tout as being head and shoulders above the rest. Not so much these days. That's not to say it couldn't happen again but it will require fiscal sense, public input and working with all sorts of interested parties, not just the vocal minorities.
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This is an important notice from LeboALERT.
Hooray! New pool pump installed successfully and pool is open for business as usual.
Elaine
Great news on the pool!
So, with the Lebo alert system in place, why don’t the Commissioner’s use it as a mechanism to communicate to the residents and request input on prioritizing issues here? At least that would stop the squeaky wheel always getting the grease, and it’s cheap! (Unlike Ed Kubit’s $4,000 taxpayer-funded glossy marketing brochure filled with inaccuracies.)
-Charlotte Stephenson
Is this like a band-aid or a long term fix?
Anon 8.21
I didn't make a point....so you didn't miss anything.
I was simply sharing some interesting information regarding the pool challenges of our neighbors to the north...
Jay Neff
Not a bad idea, except how could we trust the results when they say: "yeah we have 4,000 respondents that don't want artificial turf, but I've talked to an equal number of my neighbors and they want artificial turf." of course the Lebofields petition will cinch the decision to turf.
I found that the Franklin petition is counting signatures of those who took no action. Click on some names and you will see. He is also accepting signatures from people who live out of state.
I personally verified every signature that we had for the high school renovation making sure they were residents of Mt. Lebanon. Not an easy task for 4,000 names.
Elaine
Well, why not online polls like Elaine has? She alone has done more for garnering public opinion than all the IT people on our payrolls have for years. Send a Lebo alert to participate and include the poll in the e-mail. I don't think the results would lie.
It's not rocket science. On of the biggest barriers, in my humble opinion, to cutting through all the B.S. around here is communicating with constituents. We now have that capability. The municipality (and school district) could have a better hand on the pulse of our community if they really wanted to. I would like nothing better then to put an end to the shell games going on around here.
-Charlotte Stephenson
The pool reopened as soon as the new pump was installed and worked ? What about the tens of thousands of gallons of contaminated water already in the pool - doesn't it take hours to refilter and cleanse the existing water to safe levels before the public is allowed entry ? Or was the pump installed yesterday/last night ? Or what ?
Ms. Gillen:
"I wonder how many Mt. Lebanon residents are members of the swimming pool on Bower Hill. Even my son's Foster School fifth grade swim party was held there. Is that in Scott?"
Yes - the Bower Hill Swim Club is in Scott Township. It is just around the corner from my house and across the "border." My next-door neighbor is a member, and raves about it.
One of the reasons why it works as well as it does is that it is a private business; the club has a vested interest in making sure the pool is in good shape at all times. User pays - user benefits.
Anon 10:02.... No it will take not being afraid to raise taxes so we can fix what we have to return to being head and shoulders above the rest. You get what you pay for.
Well, Tom, there is a comment I don't agree with.
Anon 11:56 AM, I think we have raising taxes down pat. Some of us get things that we agree to pay for, but never do.
Elaine
Yes 11:56 you can sometimes say you get what you pay for.
Let's take the Lebo golf course. Yeah it's nice, it's convenient, and not a bad little 9 holer. how high do you think they can jack up greens fees before golfers say: "you know for that price I can play 18 at Cedar Btook or Lindenwood." or I'll skip a couple of Lebo rounds and with the saved money splurge on an 18 hole day at Chedtnut Ridge or a weekend at Tam oshanter/Avalon Lakes.
And how much tax do you think non-golfing residents will stand subsidizing a facility they don't use?
Well, is someone doesn't do something more than post here, Frnaklin wins even with invalid or fraudluent signatures. None of that seems to matter to three commissioners anyway.
Every signature on the turf petition is legit. Your name doesn't even show up unless/until you click "Sign". Elaine knows that. She's just trying to create issues where none exist.
Please tell me how I would know that. I wouldn't vote for that. I was clicking on names and several of them said no action was taken. Others say so and so signed this petition. Would you consider signatures from out of state legit? Are they paying for this?
In the final analysis, petitions carry no weight in this town. 4,000 meant nothing. With your whopping 117, you have it in the bag, Dave.
Love the anonymous comments on your blog, Dave. Taking the high road is working for you.
Elaine
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