Just this morning, I wrote, "Just be mindful that Mt. Lebanon is just part of this district. Go outside the bubble and you see a different picture." The Washington Examiner printed this opinion piece yesterday. Conor Lamb's whopper of a lie on Catholicism and abortion
March 13 will be interesting.
24 comments:
What a garbage piece from suuuuch a great source of journalism. Lamb always says he believes that life begins at conception. Miss me with this trash.
Yeah, the Washington Examiner and this piece are trash. Lamb is personally against abortion, but believes that it's a woman's right to choose, the same position that I hold. "Pro life," like "pro choice," is a slogan, not a belief. If the GOP really wanted to prevent abortion, they'd promote contraception education, a proven reducer of the procedure; but they don't because without abortion, the GOP's policies wouldn't be attractive to a segment of religious Americans.
Its always trash when you don't agree. Elitism at its best.
Really? What do you know about the Washington Examiner, #3 of the big two DC papers? Your inability to discern between legitimate and illegitimate media is the reason Trump is in the White House. Had the WSJ or National Review written such an article, it could be taken seriously. But the Examiner is an electronic free weekly. Look it up.
Thank you 8:39. I looked it up. The Washington Examiner also said that Conor Lamb is within striking distance. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/is-conor-lamb-the-new-model-democrat-or-will-progressives-come-for-him-next/article/2650512 Your right. We shouldn't take it seriously.
Why all the anger over the editorial? The person who submitted the piece was: "Maureen Ferguson is a contributor to the Washington Examiner's Beltway Confidential blog. She is a senior policy adviser for The Catholic Association."
A senior for the Catholic Association has the right to submit a piece that is a representation of her Catholic beliefs. In my opinion If a candidate believes one way and votes another they are not true to themselves or the constituents who elect them.
I looked up the link that 9:11 PM posted. There is a Conor Lamb ad running and Michalina is still in the ad. She wasn't edited out, at least in that ad.
Elaine
A little cynical but look whose shoes he is hoping to fill. He has to be careful what he says about this topic. Hope he is better than that though.
Look, Conor will say whatever he needs to say play to the crowd du jour. There are still people in the 18th district who never heard of him. Here in the bubble, with all his signs adorning his home town, it looks like he will win anything he runs for. Just remember, Mt. Lebanon is only a very small slice of the 18th congressional district.
I know that Conor Lamb is pro-life and given the choice would vote in that direction. As a pro-choice person, I cannot send a person to Washington who talks out of both sides of his mouth.
I agree that article shouldn't be taken seriously. The point of that article is that Democrats eat their own, and that moderate Democrats are regularly primaried by more ideological extremes. However, it's not til the last paragraph that the writer admits that all of what she wore is moot in November because of the redistricting. Thus, there is likely no future primary in the 18th involving Lamb. Thank you for proving my point.
From the campaign: “Lamb tells anyone who asks that he’s a Catholic who doesn’t think his personal religious beliefs should restrict a woman’s legal right to choose.”
So you're a single issue pro choice voter who's gonna vote Saccone? That makes sense.
If the single issue is important to you, then vote that way. How many people are voting for Conor because they are against Trump? I guess that single issue makes sense, right 5:49 AM? Equally, how many are voting for Saccone because they are for Trump?
Just remember, not everyone outside of the bubble think like us inside of the bubble.
Elaine
As a life long Catholic, I would like to point out that there's been a growing division within the Catholic church between the right-wing leaning bishops and cardinals, in their dresses and fancy hats living in their ivory towers, and the Nuns on the Bus movement headed up by Sister Simone Campbell and other. These nuns work in the trenches with the poor, sick, and destitute, i.e. walking in Jesus's footsteps, and fighting for affordable health-care for all and for civil rights.
The bishops and cardinals have become out of touch with the real world, and have seemed to align themselves with the right-wing evangelical movement, and have become one issue advocates.
For example, the evangelical movement if pro-life until the baby is born, and then they want to deprive the baby of heath-care and health-care for the poor. And many evangelicals are guns and god Christians, which doesn't even seem Christian to me, but more like a cult. I see nothing Christian in the evangelical movement.
So as far as Catholics go. I'm on the bus with Sister Simone Campbell. The all male Catholic hierarchy was trying to come down hard to put The Nuns on the Bus in their place, and to silence their voices, until they noticed that the majority of the Catholics in the U.S. sided with the Nuns on the Bus, and not the right-wing bishops and cardinals, and so they backed off quickly. IMO, if Catholics had to choose between the Catholic hierarchy and the Nun's who truly walk in the footsteps of Jesus, I think they would choose to walk with the Nun's and the Nun's on the Bus.
I view this opinion piece by Maureen Ferguson, a senior policy adviser for The Catholic Association, as a right-wing voice from the Catholic hierarchy side of this growing Catholic schism. I'm on the other side with the Nun's on the Bus, i.e. as a Catholic I think there are a number of moral pro-life issues that the right-wing doesn't address like affordable health-care for the poor, and all the other safety nets that they are trying to destroy, that the most vulnerable, i.e. the elderly and disabled, etc. need to survive.
Saccone promotes himself as Trump before Trump and as a right-wing Republican. I don't trust that he will oppose his party on cuts to social security, medicare, medicaid (do they plan to throw the elderly out of nursing homes?), and cutting meals on wheels. They give tax cuts to the wealthy and could care less about the most vulnerable in our society.
Saccone also voted against Pa's historic and landmark animal cruelty law, i.e. Libre's Law, and that tells me everything I need to know about the character of the man.
So I'm pro-life from birth to death, and I'm on board with the Nun's on the Bus, and so I'm not voting for Saccone. I could care less what the right-wing bishops and cardinals or what this Maureen Ferguson has to say.
In the end, Elaine, and somewhat to your point, I think Tuesday's election will have little to do with either candidate. It really depends on what the voters in the 18th think of Donald Trump. Lamb's and Saccone's names could easily be replaced on the ballot by two complete strangers to the political process and the winner would still be determined by Trump's polling in the 18th. Trump still has a strong hold on his 30% (approximate) base. Most of the 18th consists of Trump's base and they will definitely vote for Saccone. It appears that Lamb's base consists of Mt. Lebanon and some or perhaps many in the cities of Washington and Greensburg, PA. I think that Trump's decision on tariffs may give Saccone the boost he needs to break away from any statistical tie with Lamb. It all comes down to Trump. Lamb and Saccone are just names on a ballot.
That is certainly the case with 8:39 PM's assault. I know that we are laughed at outside of the bubble. That can hurt Conor Lamb.
People have asked me who I think will win. Living in Mt. Lebanon, I would say Conor Lamb, but as I keep saying, this is where Lamb is strong. Outside the bubble may be a different story.
Elaine
I believe the popularity of Lamb in Lebo is primarily due to his education, charm and probably the biggest,, he's a Democrat...in this current climate, they could clean up Charles Manson and have him run for Commissioner and as long as he is Democrat the voters would pull the lever..but these Grannie groupies who have been canvassing the SHills make me scratch my head because they are the females who when to college in the sixties and were burning their bras and think religion is anti intellectual - esp the Catholic religion,, so I don't understand their the extreme fascination with Lamb..oh ya,, he's the next Jack Kennedy.. hold on to your hats..all I can say is its going to be a lot of celebrating in Lebo on St Patricks Day!!
EG:
I agree. If one were to look at yard signs in Mt. Lebanon one might assume Lamb is a shoe-in. Maybe he is. But I think 8:32 AM today is right; this is a referendum on Trump.
As far as the candidates themselves are concerned, I am disgusted at how much junk they send me in the mail - totally worthless fliers with absolutely no useful information. It's like reading soundbites. And then there are the almost constant, daily, telephone calls from each campaign, using spoofed numbers (just the "Microsoft" and "IRS" callers), with either irritating recorded messages or requests for me to take a "survey." Block one number, and they use another one to call!
Then there are the campaign workers who come to the door and want to know if I'm going to vote for their guy. I won't answer their questions because of my status as a federal contractor (there are FEC rules about contractors "participating" in federal elections, and while it's mostly to do with money and "active" campaigning, how I intend to vote is my business and not theirs!). The last people to show up were Lamb workers - a man and a woman - and when I brought up the FEC rules the woman said she never heard of any such thing, intimating that I was making it up. Last night a call came in from the Lamb campaign, demanding, not asking, to talk to my wife! (She's in Florida at the moment.) Don't misunderstand; the Saccone people are just as irritating, although their tactics have been, in my case, mostly reserved for fliers and canned spoofed phone calls from "Pat Boone!" - kid's stuff.
I don't care who wins. Neither candidate is willing to tackle the issues that really matter. It's just a mud throwing festival at the moment.
10:43–lmteresting comment. Although I think that Conor has the charm of a mosquito, his good looks cannot be denied. There are several issues plaguing the Mt. Lebo old biddies and some young biddies who are in the Conor camp. I have heard that more than a few have school girl crushes on him. I agree that for most of them any D will do. That is, any D man. The women in the 18th are threatened by women who run for office. This is especially true about women in Lebo, USC, and Peters. They believe that only men can and should govern. So, may as well go for the guy whose looks make them drool. Poor Conor.
3:21pm.. 10:43 here,,i don't think the old Lebo "biddies" would be a bit bothered about a female D running for office... but I do wonder if they would be wearing out the rubber/leather for her like they have for him!! what a charmer. compare him to Kristin Linfante!!! also Conor didn't ask for these people to volunteer,, they are so anti-trump that they took up the canvassing on their own for him...maybe all their hardwork will pay off for him come Tuesday..
I am so tired of hearing all the commercials on the radio, the surveys and the robo calls. I got three this morning, with two of those for Conor Lamb. I also hung up on VP Mike Pence. I looked outside and there is someone going door to door in my neighborhood. Enough already!
Elaine
it's a big election for the D's esp since this seat has be held by the Rep for many years.. since they do really have a chance so they are going to everything it takes. the Reps have so much working against them which of course are all the very annoying ads and then Saccone himself who proclaimed at last Saturdays debate that the Health Care is not a civil right .. wow if he gets elected is going to put all the mental ill people away and stop treatment??? it was a very scary statement..
3:38
The provision of health care is not mentioned in our Constitution or the Bill of Rights. Our Founding Fathers rightfully focused on life, liberty and justice. Where is the documentation stating that health care is a civil right in law?
I believe that both candidates care about mental health. I guess if you take a snippet of words out of context you can twist anything anyone says. You want Lamb to win, understood, but don't you want the candidate to win based on fact rather than deceptive accusations? Your proclamation of Saccone "going to put all the mental ill people away and stop treatment" is simply ridiculous.
Ahh yes, 5:09, an originalist!
You need health care and treatment for life, you need health care and treatment and good health to ever truly be free (especially free from medical bills), and turning away the poor and marginalized due to a lack of funds or insurance is certainly not justice! Stop deifying the founding fathers. Sure, they were great men, but broadly citing the "founders intent" is a cop out. They were men who saw flaws in their situation and corrected them, I'm sure they would be embarrassed that our society doesn't do likewise!
6:22 Back to the original question, will you answer it please? Where is the documentation stating that health care is a civil right in law?" Please clarify since you state that one candidate 's understanding of this is different than yours.
The issue is not what you think the law should be, it is how you are portraying a candidate by skewing the facts.
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