Same letter as last year

Timmy sent out his annual letter to parents today washing his hands of any responsibility with the deer killing. Isn't it special how a school superintendent doesn't have a problem with hunters killing in daylight hours in his school district?

From: Dr. Timothy Steinhauer <noreplay@mtlsd.net>
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:33 PM
To: Mt. Lebanon School District Parents
Subject: Update: Municipal Deer Management Program

Dear Mt. Lebanon School District Families, 

In our ongoing effort to keep you apprised of local issues, I am sending you information that I received from the Mt. Lebanon Municipality concerning the controlled archery hunt they will conduct from September 17 through January 28 with a break between November 27 and December 25.  I have attached a letter from Municipal Manger Keith McGill with details about the program and a link to more extensive information on the Municipal website at http://www.mtlebanon.org/2114/Deer-Management-Information. This same information is also being shared with all of our principals, teachers, and support staff. Please do not hesitate to contact the Mt. Lebanon Municipality or Mt. Lebanon Police Department should you have any questions. 

Sincerely, 

Timothy J. Steinhauer, Ed.D.
Superintendent of Schools
Mt. Lebanon School District 

Municpal Letter 081516.pdf 

• So not only our highest paid superintendent in the region has problems pronouncing the word "municipal," he also has difficulty spelling it.
• Our new municipal manager, loaded with supporting staff, including an assistant manager, financial director, HR director, and Open Records Officer, in addition to an excellent administrative assistant, couldn't find the support to update Timmy's letter advising him of the killing that will start in Twin Hills Park in a couple of weeks.

Here is why we're spending $9000 UPDATED 2X

Our illustrious Public Information Office has published a list of FAQ (or the ones they want to answer) on the municipal website here. I now see why the commissioners are willing to shell out nine grand to Tony DeNicola to supervise the same archers kill deer on the same twelve private properties. That comes to $750 per property.

A few points to consider:

• Are these properties really being donated? It has now gone to Commonwealth Court.
• Twin Hills is NOT listed. Yay, Scott Township!
• Archery season is not September 17 - January 28, 2017 as the PIO states. The PA Game Commission lists: DEER, ARCHERY (Antlered and Antlerless) WMUs 2B, 5C and 5D: Sept. 17- Nov. 26 and Dec. 26-Jan. 28, 2017. One antlerless deer with each required antlerless license. One antlered deer per hunting license year.  Don't you just love how the PIO makes things up?
•  "All hunters in Mt. Lebanon’s program will carry identification." Just don't ask them for ID or you will be cited for harassment or interfering with a hunt. Just ask Amy Castor. 

Mt. Lebanon paid White Buffalo $9,000 to supervise the same archers on the same twelve properties (Again, that's $750 per property) for this reason only:

Property owners contacted White Buffalo directly and made donations based on a condition of confidentiality. Mt. Lebanon does not have a list of the properties. 

If the people receive any meat, then it isn't a donation, is it? Are these people really doing this out of the goodness of their hearts? Do you think they have an ulterior motive? Of course they do.

Update August 11, 2016 7:03 PM Contacting the commission is futile. I sent this email as a followup to my last email. What do I get back? Keith McGill's out of office email.

Update August 15, 2016 7:15 PM The municipal website has been corrected. I sent out yet another email, after hearing back from my commissioner. I guess Keith McGill came back from his vacation as I received this from him this morning. And yes, I thanked Keith.

Houston, we have a problem UPDATED 4X

A white 2004 Dodge Ram pick up truck with hunting decals all over it is parked at the end of Country Club Drive.  A call to 9-1-1 was placed. The officer didn't know that archery season was over. He thought that hunters could use rifles today as it is the start of rifle season. OMG!

There are two police cars there now. I sent an email to Keith McGill, commissioners, Phil Weis, and Aaron Lauth asking if we are now going to be dealing with hunters with rifles now.

To be clear, there is no archery permitted anywhere until December 26.

I sent a second email about archery season and No Hunting Signs.

Here are the emails.

Hi Elaine,

The municipal archery program will not resume until December 26th on private properties and December 28th in the public properties approved for the program. In the event of a "sled-riding" snowfall over the Christmas break we will suspend use of the golf course property.

Keith 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:

Hi Keith,

Thank you for your quick response.

Just to clarify, will there be hunting at these locations between now and December 25 by those participating in our program?

Also, any chance for a "cease fire" over Christmas break at the golf course?

Elaine

BUT NO "NO HUNTING" SIGNS ARE GOING UP.

Update November 30, 2015 5:14 PM I heard back from Keith McGill.

Hi Elaine,

Actually archery season is not over but if you are archery hunting now you are required to wear orange. As I stated earlier the municipal archery program will not resume until December 26th as we chose not to hunt the two weeks where you are required to wear orange.

The property at the end of country club is private property and I don't know whether the property owner has granted permission to anyone to hunt on the property or not. IF the owner has granted permission and IF they are meeting all the setback and other rules and regulations of the Game Commission then it would be legal to hunt the property.

Keith

Update November 30, 2015 7:29 PM Another email sent to Keith McGill.

Thanks for getting back to me, Keith. I just looked on the PA Game Commission website and I do not see that listed. http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=576240&mode=2 Would you mind sharing the link to that information?

Elaine

Update November 30, 2015 8:06 PM I swear they are just making things up as they go along.

From: Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
To: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Cc: Commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>; Aaron Lauth <alauth@mtlebanon.org>; Philip Weis <philip.weis@bipc.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2015 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: No Hunting signs SECOND REQUEST

Hi Elaine,

We are WMU2. Here is the link http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=576240&mode=2

and the information from the page:

DEER (Antlered and Antlerless) WMUs 2B, 5A, 5B, 5C and 5D: Nov. 30-Dec. 12. One antlered deer per hunting license year. An antlerless deer with each required antlerless license.

This applies for both rifle and archery. I admit it is a little confusing from their website but this was also discussed with the Wildlife Management Officer from the Game Commission when we met before beginning the program. Archers may still hunt during the 2 week rifle season but they are required to wear orange to do so.

Keith

Why am I the only one who doesn't know how many deer are here?
November 30, 2015

Update December 1, 2015 1:14 PM Mt. Lebanon puts temporary halt on deer kill 

I did thank Keith McGill, the commission, Aaron Lauth and Phil Weis for making a wise decision.

Hi Keith,

It certainly IS confusing. It looks like Scott Township's solicitor interpreted it the same way that I did.

Here is a hyperlink to Scott Township's Complaint. 
Violation of Applicable Hunting Regulations

Anyway, I'm not complaining. Thank you, everyone, for making this decision. Elaine