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A white 2004 Dodge Ram pick up truck with hunting decals all over it is parked at the end of Country Club Drive.  A call to 9-1-1 was placed. The officer didn't know that archery season was over. He thought that hunters could use rifles today as it is the start of rifle season. OMG!

There are two police cars there now. I sent an email to Keith McGill, commissioners, Phil Weis, and Aaron Lauth asking if we are now going to be dealing with hunters with rifles now.

To be clear, there is no archery permitted anywhere until December 26.

I sent a second email about archery season and No Hunting Signs.

Here are the emails.

Hi Elaine,

The municipal archery program will not resume until December 26th on private properties and December 28th in the public properties approved for the program. In the event of a "sled-riding" snowfall over the Christmas break we will suspend use of the golf course property.

Keith 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:

Hi Keith,

Thank you for your quick response.

Just to clarify, will there be hunting at these locations between now and December 25 by those participating in our program?

Also, any chance for a "cease fire" over Christmas break at the golf course?

Elaine

BUT NO "NO HUNTING" SIGNS ARE GOING UP.

Update November 30, 2015 5:14 PM I heard back from Keith McGill.

Hi Elaine,

Actually archery season is not over but if you are archery hunting now you are required to wear orange. As I stated earlier the municipal archery program will not resume until December 26th as we chose not to hunt the two weeks where you are required to wear orange.

The property at the end of country club is private property and I don't know whether the property owner has granted permission to anyone to hunt on the property or not. IF the owner has granted permission and IF they are meeting all the setback and other rules and regulations of the Game Commission then it would be legal to hunt the property.

Keith

Update November 30, 2015 7:29 PM Another email sent to Keith McGill.

Thanks for getting back to me, Keith. I just looked on the PA Game Commission website and I do not see that listed. http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=576240&mode=2 Would you mind sharing the link to that information?

Elaine

Update November 30, 2015 8:06 PM I swear they are just making things up as they go along.

From: Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
To: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Cc: Commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>; Aaron Lauth <alauth@mtlebanon.org>; Philip Weis <philip.weis@bipc.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2015 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: No Hunting signs SECOND REQUEST

Hi Elaine,

We are WMU2. Here is the link http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=576240&mode=2

and the information from the page:

DEER (Antlered and Antlerless) WMUs 2B, 5A, 5B, 5C and 5D: Nov. 30-Dec. 12. One antlered deer per hunting license year. An antlerless deer with each required antlerless license.

This applies for both rifle and archery. I admit it is a little confusing from their website but this was also discussed with the Wildlife Management Officer from the Game Commission when we met before beginning the program. Archers may still hunt during the 2 week rifle season but they are required to wear orange to do so.

Keith

Why am I the only one who doesn't know how many deer are here?
November 30, 2015

Update December 1, 2015 1:14 PM Mt. Lebanon puts temporary halt on deer kill 

I did thank Keith McGill, the commission, Aaron Lauth and Phil Weis for making a wise decision.

Hi Keith,

It certainly IS confusing. It looks like Scott Township's solicitor interpreted it the same way that I did.

Here is a hyperlink to Scott Township's Complaint. 
Violation of Applicable Hunting Regulations

Anyway, I'm not complaining. Thank you, everyone, for making this decision. Elaine