John Bendel Summarizes Mt. Lebanon Deer Management- Wrongly
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If King Bendel won't let the people speak, there's always the PA Game Commission Meeting to attend coming up in April:
Board of Game Commissioners to meet on April 9 and 10, 2015.
The Pennsylvania Board of Game Commissioners will hold its second quarterly meeting of 2015 on April 9 and 10, in the agency's Harrisburg headquarters, 2001 Elmerton Avenue, just off the Progress Avenue exit of Interstate 81 in Harrisburg, Dauphin County. A link to a live stream of the meeting will be available on the agency home page following public comments. An agenda will be available here approximately two weeks prior.
Tentative Schedule:
On Thursday, April 9, beginning at 8:30 a.m., the Board will hear public comments followed by Game Commission staff reports. Doors open at 7:45 a.m. Registration for those interested in offering public testimony – limited to five minutes – also will begin at that time. PowerPoint presentations will not be permitted during public comment.
On Friday, April 10, beginning at 8:30 a.m., the Board will take up its prepared agenda to give final approval to hunting and trapping seasons and bag limits for 2015-16, among other things. Doors open at 7:45 a.m.
Additional quarterly meetings are scheduled for June 29 and 30, 2015 September 28 and 29, 2015
The Game Commission is regulated by the state. Your state rep should have been contacted a long time ago about this. The Game Commission link provides contact info for the Commissioners. Benner's actions should be questioned as well as the entire program.
John Bendel! How can you say that you didn't want to use high powered rifles like was done 8 or so years ago, but then sign off on a cull using AR-15s?
Your heels are so far dug in that you aren't willing to see what is happening!
The Pa Game Commission Doesn't Care What You Think
The PGC is an out of control agency with too much power and no oversight.
Although the The Pa Game Commission (PGC) portrays itself as a wildlife “conservation” organization whose mission is to manage wildlife for the benefit of all Pennsylvanians, this portrayal is extremely misleading. The PGC is a game commission managing a statewide recreational killing business serving its hunter constituents (only 5-6% of PA’s population and declining fast, and likely less than 1% of Mt. Lebanon residents). The PGC is funded by hunting license fees, game land timber sales, and Federal funding under the Pittman-Roberston Act (PRA). The Federal funds are distributed based upon each state’s land area and its number of hunting licenses sold.
“That is a key reason ‘scientific herd management’ through hunting is the agencies’ bread and butter. They manage herds not to prevent problems in residential areas, but to serve themselves and their hunter constituents. Promoting deer kills also serves wildlife agencies’ interests by masking the agencies’ own responsibility for deer population growth.” (White-Tailed Deer: The Phantom Menace, David Cantor, 1999.)
"Deer are [artificially] managed on a Maximum Sustained Yield (M.S.Y.) principle to produce surpluses for hunter recreation. (The American Hunting Myth, Ron Baker, 1985)
The PGC spends more than 40% of its $80 million budget on wildlife habitat improvements for game species. The state’s deer are intentionally managed for “maximum sustained yield” to produce more targets for their hunter constituents. Contrast this with the fact that only 2.87% of their budget is directed toward non-game species, and their priorities become clear.
"In an interview a few years ago, Gary Alt described how he felt when he took the job as director of the PGC's deer management section. He looked at the history of deer mgt in the state and saw that every biologist who had ever suggested lowering the number of deer to a level more compatible with the amount of available habitat had been fired, transferred or quit. On the verge of offering similar advice of his own ... 'I thought, My God, I'm going to get killed.' ...When Alt was traveling the state doing lectures for sportsmen, things were so hot that he was advised to wear a bulletproof vest and have an escape route planned for any hall he entered."
This PGC's artificial propagation of the deer population and hunting are responsible for a majority of car-deer collisions, related injuries, and deaths across the state.
The PGC opposes any kind of non-lethal fertility based deer management; i.e. hunters are their constituents, and they want to "hunt" in our parks and back yards to kill tame trophy bucks. In addition, hunters are paranoid that any approval of fertility based deer management is a slippery slope, and that the government wants to take their guns and hunting opportunities away. Of course, this is not true; i.e. deer fertility mgt would only be used in densely populated and developed urban and suburban communities where it is just to dangerous too hunt and use lethal weapons.
The PGC doesn't care what you think or your safety concerns for your family, because you are not one of their constituents. This is why the PGC needs a major overhaul that includes, changes in funding, a real wildlife conservation mission, and an executive board (not all hunters) that represents all the stake holders in the state.
We can get the PGC to approve a totally safe non-lethal deer contraception or sterilization program, without the idiotic hunting requirement (we wouldn't be requesting a fertility mgt option if it wasn't too dangerous to hunt or use lethal weapons in our community) if the Mt. Lebanon Commission demanded this safe alternative, instead of kowtowing to the PGC, and by getting State Senator Matt Smith (D), State Rep. Dan Miller (D), and State Rep. John Maher (R), who all support safe and non-lethal deer mgt solutions, to demand that Mt. Lebanon be given approval to implement a total deer contraception or sterilization program.
That said, I think implementing a deer contraception or sterilization program is putting the cart before the horse, I think Mt. Lebanon should first implement the deer-resistant gardening strategies and successful collision reduction strategies already in operation elsewhere, and evaluate the results before implementing a deer contraception or sterilization program. Mt. Lebanon has ignored all of these recommendations and has done nothing to date. They also have to implement and enforce a more effective bird feeding ordinance, because all bird feeders attract deer too.
The main problem is the smorgasbord of irresistible flowers and plants that residents grow in their yards, and that Mt. Lebanon plants in its 30+ flower islands throughout the community. It's this abundant food resource that is the major attractant causing deer to travel to Mt. Lebanon and cross the roads to browse. Mt. Lebanon has to reach out to its residents and ask for their help, hold deer proofing seminars, and show the residents how they can have beautiful gardens and landscapes by planting deer resistant plants and flowers, and using repellents and other effective deterrents. In addition, Mt. Lebanon, should also track deer crossing hot spots and put up effective flashing deer crossing warning signs, and educate residents not to veer if they see a deer. These are all proven recommendations that Laura Simon, The Humane Society of the United States' (HSUS) wildlife biologist and deer expert has made repeatedly, but which have been ignored and not implemented.
IMO, Mt. Lebanon needs to implement these recommendations and evaluate the results before implementing a deer contraception or sterilization program. That said, if residents want to move forward with both, a deer-resistant gardening strategy and a deer contraception or sterilization program, that's fine too.
Many bird species are very dependent on bird feeders during the worst winter months, especially with these past 2 winters where we've had layers of ice covering the ground for weeks. You can make a bird-feeder inaccessible to deer very easily by creating a winch system. String the feeder over a high branch (too high for deer to reach), lower to fill then pull up again and tie, then just make sure there isn't a ton of seed gathering underneath or use waste-free. I think banning bird feeders would be counter-productive for the local fauna.
John Hayes of the Post Gazette has another interesting column up on the paper's website today. It looks like the MTL PIO's parrot is laying out the ground work for what will be happening once Benner's corral & kill fails to eliminate the desired number of deer. The corn & urine police are looking to reopen their own private game preserve. (Is that why we're advertising for more police?)
But the most interesting item in Hayes column is this statement: "“What happened in Mt. Lebanon, I would classify as mismanagement,” he said. “They got themselves into this situation. " Could that be applied to almost every management decision made here in the bubble in the past 15 years, from the Twin Hills/McNeilly purchases to the HS renovation, to the field turf, to the pool, to the Home Rule charter changes, to the field signs, garbage collections, stormwater maintenance to the Newcomers tax. I'd classify it all as being mismanaged!
I'm enjoying reading the comments under his column. According to the commenters, the protesters are all animal rights lovers. They are so wrong. Besides animal rights lovers, there are neighbors concerned for their safety, parents who are angry that children are being denied access to parks, hunters, parents trying to help their children cope with this horrific plan, taxpayers against tax dollars being spent on killing deer, the way our excellent police force is now being used to guard corn, how four commissioners are misleading and ignoring constituents, and if there are other reasons that I have missed, please share them. Elaine
You missed that they're misleading residents because they have absolutely how many deer there actually are in MTL and therefore cannot make any intelligent decision on how many deer they need to eliminate to achieve their 50% reduction in deer incidents. There was, according to the 2013 and 2014 aerial surveys a dramatic reduction of the deer population in 2014. Perhaps like global temperatures, deer populations rise and fall despite what we do. Regardless, how can the commissioners determine we need to cull 150 deer to achieve a 50% reduction in deer incidents? Maybe they need to 1,000, maybe only 2. They don't have a friggin' clue what is needed.
Are people still detracting our deer with goodies and watching for activity at the killing sites? I really doubt they will ever be truthful about the number of deer killed.
11:30 how stupid is a goal of 50% reduction deer mc accidents when there is no measure of cars or driver behavior? Mt Lebanon is likely to see an increasing number of accidents due to countless reasons over the next 5 years. There won't be a reduction in the deer mv incidents but there will be a continuous desire to kill, kill, kill. If public safety were a true concern, culling the dangerous drivers would be the focus because it's the approach that would reduce the greatest reason for hazards on our streets.
Look at the expression on Fellers' face as he looks at Bendel pontificating - Feller seems to be saying "..can't trust whatever that sumbitch says, he's out of his mind!"
Then there is this little inexpensive beauty from Amazon (>$70) but flight time and controllability in a breeze may be a shortcoming. But you could look in a corral without trespassing. What are they going to do--- shoot it down?
According to this article in the Trib about declining deer harvest, it appears that Trap & Transfer would be a humane alternative to our deer issue. "Add it all up, and the buck and doe harvest estimates released last week by the commission — though down from the year before — likely will rank Pennsylvania among the nation's leaders in harvest again. Some people aren't buying it, though.
All of those rankings are based on the Game Commission's harvest estimates, which are widely viewed as sketchy at best, said Randy Santucci of McKees Rocks, president of the Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania.
Many deer hunters are convinced deer populations in large sections of the state are so low that they are nearly unhuntable, he said."
A little birdie told me the corn police investigated a call on alleged "criminal mischief" at at least one of the parks yesterday.
Expect to see another unsubstantiated claim of some people doing something just like Benner's game camera pictures that were announced with great fanfare, but never seen or heard from again.
Laying the groundwork for blaming the cull failure on "Mr. Nobody"
I own a U8180 ufo drone... it's a piece of junk and too unstable for our purposes. The Parrot or Hubschman models that offer a real-time viewing screen on the remote control box would be best.
I totally agree with you. I didn't say ban bird feeding, I said, "implement and enforce a more effective bird feeding ordinance." I think your idea is perfect. They currently say that the bird feeder has to be a certain height, but they don't tell people how to get it to that height, and they don't enforce it, or even talk about it in the Mt. Lebo Mag. Birds definitely need some feeding help in harsh winters, but low hanging bird feeders are a major deer food attractant, and so some creative guidance is needed to reduce that attractant. FYI, I love feeding my birds, but I don't want deer slaughtered because of my feeding.
Doesn't that blowhard John Hayes have anything better to do that to make a living on promoting the use of lethal weapons and hunting in urban and suburban communities where his kids don't live, and that he has nothing to do with. I don't believe he's even attended one Commission meeting.
He also shouldn't be a mouth piece for the pro-kill administration and be spoon fed by our PIO.
It's to his benefit to start and promote this kind of community divisiveness and write controversial articles that upset people, because it makes him and his pro-hunting column relevant.
As a matter of fact, it is extremely unethical journalism, that the PG allows Hayes to switch hats from a pro-hunting columnist promoting hunting in Mt. Lebanon in the outdoors section, and then pose as an unbiased reporter writing articles published in the main south news sections about Mt. Lebanon's deer killing program.
The Post-Gazette needs to be called out on this unethical journalism. People should call Joseph Pepe, the President of the Post-Gazette, and tell him what they think, and that they are going to drop their subscription if this unethical practice continues. The main PG number is 412-263-1100.
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If King Bendel won't let the people speak, there's always the PA Game Commission Meeting to attend coming up in April:
Board of Game Commissioners to meet on April 9 and 10, 2015.
The Pennsylvania Board of Game Commissioners will hold its second quarterly meeting of 2015 on April 9 and 10, in the agency's Harrisburg headquarters, 2001 Elmerton Avenue, just off the Progress Avenue exit of Interstate 81 in Harrisburg, Dauphin County. A link to a live stream of the meeting will be available on the agency home page following public comments. An agenda will be available here approximately two weeks prior.
Tentative Schedule:
On Thursday, April 9, beginning at 8:30 a.m., the Board will hear public comments followed by Game Commission staff reports. Doors open at 7:45 a.m. Registration for those interested in offering public testimony – limited to five minutes – also will begin at that time. PowerPoint presentations will not be permitted during public comment.
On Friday, April 10, beginning at 8:30 a.m., the Board will take up its prepared agenda to give final approval to hunting and trapping seasons and bag limits for 2015-16, among other things. Doors open at 7:45 a.m.
Additional quarterly meetings are scheduled for
June 29 and 30, 2015
September 28 and 29, 2015
I am totally up for going to the Game Commission meeting! What a great idea.
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=562941&mode=2
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/34/34.HTM
The Game Commission is regulated by the state. Your state rep should have been contacted a long time ago about this. The Game Commission link provides contact info for the Commissioners. Benner's actions should be questioned as well as the entire program.
John Bendel! How can you say that you didn't want to use high powered rifles like was done 8 or so years ago, but then sign off on a cull using AR-15s?
Your heels are so far dug in that you aren't willing to see what is happening!
The Pa Game Commission Doesn't Care What You Think
The PGC is an out of control agency with too much power and no oversight.
Although the The Pa Game Commission (PGC) portrays itself as a wildlife “conservation” organization whose mission is to manage wildlife for the benefit of all Pennsylvanians, this portrayal is extremely misleading. The PGC is a game commission managing a statewide recreational killing business serving its hunter constituents (only 5-6% of PA’s population and declining fast, and likely less than 1% of Mt. Lebanon residents). The PGC is funded by hunting license fees, game land timber sales, and Federal funding under the Pittman-Roberston Act (PRA). The Federal funds are distributed based upon each state’s land area and its number of hunting licenses sold.
“That is a key reason ‘scientific herd management’ through hunting is the agencies’ bread and butter. They manage herds not to prevent problems in residential areas, but to serve themselves and their hunter constituents. Promoting deer kills also serves wildlife agencies’ interests by masking the agencies’ own responsibility for deer population growth.” (White-Tailed Deer: The Phantom Menace, David Cantor, 1999.)
"Deer are [artificially] managed on a Maximum Sustained Yield (M.S.Y.) principle to produce surpluses for hunter recreation. (The American Hunting Myth, Ron Baker, 1985)
The PGC spends more than 40% of its $80 million budget on wildlife habitat improvements for game species. The state’s deer are intentionally managed for “maximum sustained yield” to produce more targets for their hunter constituents. Contrast this with the fact that only 2.87% of their budget is directed toward non-game species, and their priorities become clear.
"In an interview a few years ago, Gary Alt described how he felt when he took the job as director of the PGC's deer management section. He looked at the history of deer mgt in the state and saw that every biologist who had ever suggested lowering the number of deer to a level more compatible with the amount of available habitat had been fired, transferred or quit. On the verge of offering similar advice of his own ... 'I thought, My God, I'm going to get killed.' ...When Alt was traveling the state doing lectures for sportsmen, things were so hot that he was advised to wear a bulletproof vest and have an escape route planned for any hall he entered."
This PGC's artificial propagation of the deer population and hunting are responsible for a majority of car-deer collisions, related injuries, and deaths across the state.
The PGC opposes any kind of non-lethal fertility based deer management; i.e. hunters are their constituents, and they want to "hunt" in our parks and back yards to kill tame trophy bucks. In addition, hunters are paranoid that any approval of fertility based deer management is a slippery slope, and that the government wants to take their guns and hunting opportunities away. Of course, this is not true; i.e. deer fertility mgt would only be used in densely populated and developed urban and suburban communities where it is just to dangerous too hunt and use lethal weapons.
The PGC doesn't care what you think or your safety concerns for your family, because you are not one of their constituents. This is why the PGC needs a major overhaul that includes, changes in funding, a real wildlife conservation mission, and an executive board (not all hunters) that represents all the stake holders in the state.
We can get the PGC to approve a totally safe non-lethal deer contraception or sterilization program, without the idiotic hunting requirement (we wouldn't be requesting a fertility mgt option if it wasn't too dangerous to hunt or use lethal weapons in our community) if the Mt. Lebanon Commission demanded this safe alternative, instead of kowtowing to the PGC, and by getting State Senator Matt Smith (D), State Rep. Dan Miller (D), and State Rep. John Maher (R), who all support safe and non-lethal deer mgt solutions, to demand that Mt. Lebanon be given approval to implement a total deer contraception or sterilization program.
That said, I think implementing a deer contraception or sterilization program is putting the cart before the horse, I think Mt. Lebanon should first implement the deer-resistant gardening strategies and successful collision reduction strategies already in operation elsewhere, and evaluate the results before implementing a deer contraception or sterilization program. Mt. Lebanon has ignored all of these recommendations and has done nothing to date. They also have to implement and enforce a more effective bird feeding ordinance, because all bird feeders attract deer too.
The main problem is the smorgasbord of irresistible flowers and plants that residents grow in their yards, and that Mt. Lebanon plants in its 30+ flower islands throughout the community. It's this abundant food resource that is the major attractant causing deer to travel to Mt. Lebanon and cross the roads to browse. Mt. Lebanon has to reach out to its residents and ask for their help, hold deer proofing seminars, and show the residents how they can have beautiful gardens and landscapes by planting deer resistant plants and flowers, and using repellents and other effective deterrents. In addition, Mt. Lebanon, should also track deer crossing hot spots and put up effective flashing deer crossing warning signs, and educate residents not to veer if they see a deer. These are all proven recommendations that Laura Simon, The Humane Society of the United States' (HSUS) wildlife biologist and deer expert has made repeatedly, but which have been ignored and not implemented.
IMO, Mt. Lebanon needs to implement these recommendations and evaluate the results before implementing a deer contraception or sterilization program. That said, if residents want to move forward with both, a deer-resistant gardening strategy and a deer contraception or sterilization program, that's fine too.
FFS, this is NOT hunting. This is rounding up deer in a corral and exterminating them.
Hunters hate this idiotic program and slimebags like Benner as much as anyone.
Hunters are also not real crazy about the PGC either.
Many bird species are very dependent on bird feeders during the worst winter months, especially with these past 2 winters where we've had layers of ice covering the ground for weeks. You can make a bird-feeder inaccessible to deer very easily by creating a winch system. String the feeder over a high branch (too high for deer to reach), lower to fill then pull up again and tie, then just make sure there isn't a ton of seed gathering underneath or use waste-free. I think banning bird feeders would be counter-productive for the local fauna.
John Hayes of the Post Gazette has another interesting column up on the paper's website today.
It looks like the MTL PIO's parrot is laying out the ground work for what will be happening once Benner's corral & kill fails to eliminate the desired number of deer.
The corn & urine police are looking to reopen their own private game preserve. (Is that why we're advertising for more police?)
But the most interesting item in Hayes column is this statement: "“What happened in Mt. Lebanon, I would classify as mismanagement,” he said. “They got themselves into this situation. "
Could that be applied to almost every management decision made here in the bubble in the past 15 years, from the Twin Hills/McNeilly purchases to the HS renovation, to the field turf, to the pool, to the Home Rule charter changes, to the field signs, garbage collections, stormwater maintenance to the Newcomers tax.
I'd classify it all as being mismanaged!
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/outdoors/2015/03/15/Finding-a-palatable-answer-to-deer-Mt-Lebanon-overpopulation/stories/201503150112
I'm enjoying reading the comments under his column. According to the commenters, the protesters are all animal rights lovers. They are so wrong. Besides animal rights lovers, there are neighbors concerned for their safety, parents who are angry that children are being denied access to parks, hunters, parents trying to help their children cope with this horrific plan, taxpayers against tax dollars being spent on killing deer, the way our excellent police force is now being used to guard corn, how four commissioners are misleading and ignoring constituents, and if there are other reasons that I have missed, please share them.
Elaine
You missed that they're misleading residents because they have absolutely how many deer there actually are in MTL and therefore cannot make any intelligent decision on how many deer they need to eliminate to achieve their 50% reduction in deer incidents.
There was, according to the 2013 and 2014 aerial surveys a dramatic reduction of the deer population in 2014.
Perhaps like global temperatures, deer populations rise and fall despite what we do.
Regardless, how can the commissioners determine we need to cull 150 deer to achieve a 50% reduction in deer incidents?
Maybe they need to 1,000, maybe only 2.
They don't have a friggin' clue what is needed.
Are people still detracting our deer with goodies and watching for activity at the killing sites? I really doubt they will ever be truthful about the number of deer killed.
They weren't honest about the number here, why would they be honest about the number killed?
11:30 how stupid is a goal of 50% reduction deer mc accidents when there is no measure of cars or driver behavior? Mt Lebanon is likely to see an increasing number of accidents due to countless reasons over the next 5 years. There won't be a reduction in the deer mv incidents but there will be a continuous desire to kill, kill, kill. If public safety were a true concern, culling the dangerous drivers would be the focus because it's the approach that would reduce the greatest reason for hazards on our streets.
Look at the expression on Fellers' face as he looks at Bendel pontificating - Feller seems to be saying "..can't trust whatever that sumbitch says, he's out of his mind!"
For those with some extra cash and a smartphone that want to get videos inside the corrals without trespassing here might be a solution.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/mobile-living/entertainment/parrot-drone-jumping-sumo-crawling-spider/
Then there is this little inexpensive beauty from Amazon (>$70) but flight time and controllability in a breeze may be a shortcoming. But you could look in a corral without trespassing. What are they going to do--- shoot it down?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00D3IN11Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1426439333&sr=8-1&keywords=UDI+RC
My kids are afraid to go to the parks with corrals.
Here's a review and video of the UFO-u818 drone.
http://www.bestquadcoptersreviews.com/udi-u818a-review-6-axis-rc-quadcopter/
According to this article in the Trib about declining deer harvest, it appears that Trap & Transfer would be a humane alternative to our deer issue.
"Add it all up, and the buck and doe harvest estimates released last week by the commission — though down from the year before — likely will rank Pennsylvania among the nation's leaders in harvest again.
Some people aren't buying it, though.
All of those rankings are based on the Game Commission's harvest estimates, which are widely viewed as sketchy at best, said Randy Santucci of McKees Rocks, president of the Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania.
Many deer hunters are convinced deer populations in large sections of the state are so low that they are nearly unhuntable, he said."
http://triblive.com/mobile/7957218-96/harvest-deer-doe
Plus according to a Benner Wildlife specialist's bio, they've successful done trap and transfers.
So why are we killing deer in an untried method?
A little birdie told me the corn police investigated a call on alleged "criminal mischief" at at least one of the parks yesterday.
Expect to see another unsubstantiated claim of some people doing something just like Benner's game camera pictures that were announced with great fanfare, but never seen or heard from again.
Laying the groundwork for blaming the cull failure on "Mr. Nobody"
I own a U8180 ufo drone... it's a piece of junk and too unstable for our purposes. The Parrot or Hubschman models that offer a real-time viewing screen on the remote control box would be best.
- Zack M.
March 15, 2015 at 10:09 AM
I totally agree with you. I didn't say ban bird feeding, I said, "implement and enforce a more effective bird feeding ordinance." I think your idea is perfect. They currently say that the bird feeder has to be a certain height, but they don't tell people how to get it to that height, and they don't enforce it, or even talk about it in the Mt. Lebo Mag. Birds definitely need some feeding help in harsh winters, but low hanging bird feeders are a major deer food attractant, and so some creative guidance is needed to reduce that attractant. FYI, I love feeding my birds, but I don't want deer slaughtered because of my feeding.
Doesn't that blowhard John Hayes have anything better to do that to make a living on promoting the use of lethal weapons and hunting in urban and suburban communities where his kids don't live, and that he has nothing to do with. I don't believe he's even attended one Commission meeting.
He also shouldn't be a mouth piece for the pro-kill administration and be spoon fed by our PIO.
It's to his benefit to start and promote this kind of community divisiveness and write controversial articles that upset people, because it makes him and his pro-hunting column relevant.
As a matter of fact, it is extremely unethical journalism, that the PG allows Hayes to switch hats from a pro-hunting columnist promoting hunting in Mt. Lebanon in the outdoors section, and then pose as an unbiased reporter writing articles published in the main south news sections about Mt. Lebanon's deer killing program.
The Post-Gazette needs to be called out on this unethical journalism. People should call Joseph Pepe, the President of the Post-Gazette, and tell him what they think, and that they are going to drop their subscription if this unethical practice continues. The main PG number is 412-263-1100.
Thanks fHR the heads up Zack on the drone. The video of it in operation looked great, glad to see you can't always trust online reviews.
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