A disturbing admission UPDATED

I have been trying to catch up on all my emails and found this very disturbing admission.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Mt. Lebanon Deer Program <mtlebodeer@whitebuffaloinc.org> wrote: 

[Name redacted]

Thanks for reaching out. I am happy to let you know that Chris Double is not one of our program hunters. We are starting with a very small group this year and there are more hunters who already hunt the township than we have in our program. We have no control over the hunting that is already legally taking place within the township.

Please let me know if I can help in any way.

Best,

Vickie DeNicola

 

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Update September 21, 2015 10:09 AM What could possibly go wrong? A Lebo Citizens reader discovered a camper on private property near the golf course, while on a search for tree stands last night. The young man was unaware of any archery activities that were going to begin this morning. The Lebo Citizen reader reported this discovery to the police last night. As of this morning, the camper was still there.

Need an archer? Call Chris UPDATED

So much for paying Jody Maddock/Anthony DeNicola/White Buffalo $15,460 to screen archers. Chris can do it for free. Ugh.

http://doubledroptine.com/deer-hunts/printable-permission-form-for-mt-lebanon-deer-hunting/

Chris' Downloadable Permission Form

Update September 18, 2015 9:49 PM Barbara's email as referenced in her 8:50 PM comment:

From: Barbara 
Date: Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 5:21 PM 
Subject: archer soliciting un-trained resident hunters 
To: commission@mtlebanon.org, mtlebodeer@whitebuffaloinc.org, alauth@mtlebanon.org, Stephen Feller < sfeller@mtlebanon.org> 

Commissioners, Mr. Maddock, Chief Lauth, and Mr. Feller :

I'm writing to express a public safety concern I have relating to the apparent actions of one of the archers participating in the deer hunt. 

Chris Double, the owner of Double Drop Tine Outfitters, appears to be using his interactions with Mt. Lebanon residents as a "vetted" archer to solicit additional archery hunting in Mt. Lebanon by un-screened, unqualified Mt. Lebanon property owners themselves.  This is dangerous and will only increase the conflict that's already in our community.  It also goes directly against the charge given by then-Chief McDonough to the archers in his December 10, 2014 letter, which states that   "The [archery] program was accepted by the Mt. Lebanon Commission as a deer management tool, not as a 'hunting program' " and further emphasizes that  "community relations is an important component of the program. You are representing Mt. Lebanon and the other archers in this program while you are afield. You are expected to act professionally at all times, and to strive to avoid conflict and controversy."

Mr. Double's website ( http://doubledroptine.com/deer-hunts/printable-permission-form-for-mt-lebanon-deer-hunting/)  and Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/ddtoutfitters)  both provide a link to a downloadable permission form (screen shots attached) which Mr. Double states will be provided to all neighbors of Mt. Lebanon residents whose property he will be hunting on.  The very first choice of actions a neighbor may select is this:

"( _) I am interested in learning how I can harvest deer on my property. (The new Mentored Adult Program as well as the time tested Mentored Youth Program)"

As you can see from the information provided by the PA Game Commission (http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_0_122068_0_0_43/http;/pubcontent.state.pa.us/publishedcontent/publish/marketingsites/game_commission/content/resources/newsreleases/newsrelease/articles/release__029_14.html) the Mentored Adult Program (I cannot even contemplate the Mentored Youth Program) has the explicit goal of increasing the population of hunters by allowing untrained hunters to hunt with a "mentor" (perhaps someone like Mr. Double himself)  for  up to 3 years  without having to take a single safety or hunter education course.   I am aware that hunting is legal on private property, even here in Mt. Lebanon; however, I am sure that neither the Commission nor the Police intended or would approve of an individual with special interests and the potential for financial gain (Mr. Double owns a hunting excursions business) coming into our deeply-divided and densely populated community and encouraging angry, frustrated property owners to take matters into their own un-trained hands.

Not only would untrained resident archers be putting their neighbors in danger --  they would be directly subverting the very safety measures (screening, experience, technical expertise, safety education) that you have tried to establish by organizing and paying for a community managed hunt in the first place! 

Mr. Maddock, in your presentations to the Commission and the community, you have emphasized the importance of selecting archers who are not only qualified sportsmen, but who are "ethical" people who will exercise good judgment while in our community.  Mr. Double's behavior strikes me as neither ethical nor based on good jugdment.  If this is any indicator of the types of effects we could seeing in our community as a result of inviting archers in, I am even more worried and angry than I was before. 

Commissioners, Mr. Maddock, Chief Lauth, and Mr. Feller: I am writing to you about this situation despite any negative effects doing so may have on me because I am afraid of what might happen if frustrated, angry property owners in our community start taking matters into their own hands.  Hunting may be an individual's right, but public safety must be our community's priority.  I am asking you to please take any action you feel would be appropriate and effective to ensure that the archers brought here to do a job do only that job, safely and ethically --  without further damaging our already divided community. 

Thank you sincerely for your time and attention.

Barbara 

The new commissioner is like Kristen on steroids UPDATED 2X

Comments tonight were overwhelmingly against using weapons to "manage" deer. Getting the PG to admit that is another story. In Mt. Lebanon considering sharpshooters for deer management, we read

While the commission has said its goal is to reduce the number of deer versus vehicle collisions by 50 percent in five years, 10 residents – some of whom carried “Not in my Yard” signs – spoke out against the culling program, saying that bows and bullets flying through the community presents an even more serious safety issue for Mt. Lebanon.

There were only 12 residents who commented tonight during Citizen Comments. 

The above photo captures Coleen trying to pull a fast one. She added an item to the agenda tonight, 11B, which would have started the process of having the USDA come up with an agreement/contract that the commission would vote on September 8th. Fortunately Dave and Kelly immediately voiced opposition, Steve and John followed suit after they heard why Dave and Kelly opposed it because of transparency and it being"wholly inappropriate."

Coleen is Kristen on steroids. Watch the video when it comes out, there’s more to it than what is being conveyed here. Coleen is dangerous.

I had to walk out of the Wildlife Services portion of the Commission Discussion Session. It appears Wildlife Services is not exempt from the Federal Gun-Free School Zones Act, but they do have a way around it. Such sleaze bags. As I explained in an earlier comment, they could get permission from the School District and the Municipality. Additionally, private property next to schools is also exempt, according to Wildlife Services.

We will have seven months of Hell starting in less than six weeks, with an overlap of 24 hours a day of killing during the month of January. Another sleepless night ahead of me and at least nine others tonight.

Vuono: Kill 100 deer by archers AND 150 deer by sharp shooters UPDATED

Updated July 15, 2015 6:57 AM I changed the title to this post to demonstrate the venom my commissioner has toward deer. Linfante looks like Mary Poppins compared to Vuono. Coleen Vuono actually wanted to hire Wildlife Services, the bimbos from 2006-2008, to kill 150 deer by night AND, simultaneously hire DeNicola's White Buffalo to kill 100 deer by day. The last aerial survey showed 196 deer in and surrounding our six square miles. Commissioners also approved goats and guard mules for Bird Park.

I cannot believe what I heard tonight. I am still in shock, so let me start with what I said during Citizen Comments. 

I have been speaking against deer killing for ten years. I'm part of the Coalition for Coexistence because I am against violence. Firing weapons in our densely populated community is dangerous and should be avoided at all costs.

Repeatedly, I have been asking about the sterilization permit application. Steve Feller had said that it was going to be resubmitted in April. When I asked again, Tony DeNicola had helped fill out the application form . The PA Game Commission representative, Jeanine Fleegle offered to help with the process at the June 22 meeting. Yes or No. Has it been resubmitted? [The answer was "NO."]

On the White Buffalo website, there is a nice photo of Jody Maddock. He is a project manager for Tony DeNicola. Maddock was billed as working at Bryn Athyn College. Nothing was ever mentioned that he was the founder of Whitetail Associates. We were never told that there was a connection between the two "experts." Then we find out that tonight, you folks may approve a proposal submitted by them. Was an RFP advertised? Yes or No. [The answer was "NO."] By the way, that proposal was never publicized. 

Asking the hunters to produce the deer's right jaw bone as proof of delivery is the most gruesome and revolting thought possible for many of us. What is this? Medieval times? 

Did you ever play the game, "Whack a Mole" at Chuck E. Cheese's? You bop one mole and then another one pops up somewhere else. That's the game I feel we're playing regarding the reasons to kill the deer. We've heard the gardens are being destroyed, there's too much deer poop, the car accidents involving deer are increasing, we have too many deer, counts don't matter, Lyme Disease, you're against sharp shooting and then you are for sharpshooting, the Ecosystem is being destroyed, birds are disappearing and my favorite, deer are scary. As soon as we debunk one issue, you're on to something else. 

So what is it really? Car accidents or gardens? If it is car accidents, why are you focusing on 9% of the total accidents? You're forgetting the other 91% of the car accidents. What happens if the number drops 50% before five years? When does the tally start? 2012? 2016? 

If it is NOT about gardens, why was there so much emphasis placed on "ongoing deer management" at a former commissioner's home last Sunday? I emailed you the notices she was passing out and I put them on my blog, Lebo Citizens. She had been quoted as saying, "Well the deer are going to die anyway." I love the Mt. Lebanon Public Library Garden Tour. I am a big supporter of the Library and have attended ALL 25 years of tours. It is a shame that it was used as a political platform to kill deer. This isn't the first time that has happened. A few years ago, the Gentlemen Gardeners did the same thing. If it isn't about gardens, then why does this happen repeatedly? 

I was fascinated by the goats and mule presentation and how they eat invasives. Deer love poison ivy and English Ivy. Goats are good. Deer are bad. Goat and donkey poop is acceptable. Deer poop is not. 

I am having an especially hard time writing those checks to pay my taxes. This was once a stellar community. Now Mt. Lebanon provides comic relief during the news.

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So you may have heard by now, three commissioners are now opting for "sharp shooting" AND archery. Dave and Kelly are still opposed to sharp shooting, but John "I'm against sharp shooting" Bendel is now right there with Coleen and Steve. If Coleen could have started sharp shooting tonight, it would not have been soon enough. Let me tell you, they aren't sharp shooters. We're not talking Navy SEALS. 

For those Lebo Citizen readers who were not here in 2006-2008, you don't know the fear of not knowing who is outside ready to shoot when you have to let your dog go out in the middle of the night. None of us know what it will be like to see archers in the daytime. For all those people tonight, well, I guess it was technically last night, who were afraid to have their kids play outside because of the deer, will now have to deal with seeing wounded deer, archers trailing deer, dying deer, and arrows covered in blood and fur. 

There were people tonight who actually said that they do not want to coexist. I don't know what else to say tonight except I am deeply disappointed in the commission and the blood thirsty residents who spoke this evening.

Update July 15, 2015 7:49 PM Mt. Lebanon residents to get choice in allowing bowhunting on properties to cull deer