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My post about the firing range has been removed from Nextdoor. Here is the email I got with an explanation. But we can have Brian be an asshole and nobody seems to mind that. I am the one who is the problem. 

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Elaine Gillen
Subject: Your Recent Content on Nextdoor

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FEB 20, 2018  |  11:17AM PST
Roz replied:

Hi Elaine,

I’m reaching out because several of your neighbors have reported your posts about the proposed Mt. Lebanon firing range that have led to a heated discussion in your neighborhood.

At Nextdoor, we definitely encourage members to discuss issues that matter to them in a way that is constructive, civil and builds community. That said, we ask that members not use Nextdoor to air their personal views on non-local issues that are known to be highly controversial.

I understand why you’d want to share the information about this firing range with your Nextdoor community. Unfortunately this issue is causing frustration among your neighbors, we need to ask that you refrain from further posting about this topic in the main newsfeed. If you feel there is sufficient interest in this issue, please create a Group dedicated to conversations about this topic. We’ve found that this can be a great way to foster deep and constructive discussion, while still keeping the main newsfeed a positive and productive space for topics of general interest.

Please note, all messages in a Group must adhere to the Community Guidelines.

As a Lead, you set the standard for neighborly communication on Nextdoor. Moving forward, please help us to promote open, helpful, and respectful discussion by ensuring that posted content follows the Community Guidelines.

Thanks for your understanding. If you have any questions regarding our Guidelines, please let me know.

Best,

Roz
Nextdoor

Just got this email from Nextdoor. Tough crowd. Wow.

Hello Elaine, A message you posted was reported and removed for violating Nextdoor's Community Guideline: Be Helpful, not Hurtful. If you have concerns about why your content was reported or removed, do not post about it in the main newsfeed. Here’s what you can do: Review the Community Guidelines Contact your Leads Read more about best practices for posting on Nextdoor in our Help Center. Here is the message that was reported: "Posting on Nextdoor" Posted on Feb 20, 2018 Thank you, The Nextdoor Team

"It’s been quiet.” UPDATED 4X

Finally, Susan and I agree on something! At least how quiet it has been. Susan Morgans was quoted by her minion John Hayes in his report Mt. Lebanon deer reduction enters firearm phase

“There’s been very little public comment, even at the public meetings,” said Mt. Lebanon spokeswoman Susan Morgans. “I don’t know what that means — people have moved on to other things? It’s been quiet.”

I think I can explain why there has been very little public comment, Susan. For one thing, taking me to Common Pleas Court has had quite a chilling effect. I haven't been to a commission meeting for over a year. I can hear your applause from here, Susan. It has had a chilling effect on others as well. Ah, more applause.

It has been quiet, Susan. Look at what you have posted on mtl - Mt. Lebanon Magazine Facebook feed. Nothing about the lethal deer program. We do see helpful tips about clearing snow away from fire hydrants, in case of fire. Yes, very important. Keep our doors locked since Mt. Lebanon has intruders because of the regional drug problem. We must protect ourselves. Agreed. Several posts about Punxsutawney Phil. Being prepared for what is to come is another helpful tip. Be prepared and protect yourselves is the takeaway here. But don't be prepared or want to protect yourself when it comes to firing .223 caliber rifles in a densely populated community. Got it.

Let's look at Twitter. Wow! There is hope yet!

mtlebanonmagazine ‏@mtlmagazine  Feb 2

Deer Management Information http://dlvr.it/NGchnl 

More promising news on the municipal home page! We don't have to scroll through "Trending Now" to find the deer management information. Thank you to commissioners or Keith McGill for listening to my emails. I had written:

The 2017 executed (or is it execution?) contract for "sharpshooting" has been posted on the municipal site and here on Lebo Citizens. Note: The municipal link is the direct link to the contract. It is hidden by scrolling through "Trending Now, " > Deer Management Information posted on July 20, 2016 > Additional Info.... Mt. Lebanon wouldn't want any of the killing information on the Home page.

Susan, if we could get an announcement on Facebook or if the police could utilize their public access to Nextdoor and alert folks of a situation that could be deadly if one is in the wrong place at the wrong time, I would feel much better. I can just do so much on Blogger, Nextdoor, and Facebook.

So what are we doing instead of speaking at public meetings? You can bet we have moved on - to more effective ways of fighting this issue. We're finding candidates who have common sense to replace the buffoons who call themselves commissioners and claim that shooting firearms in a densely populated community, without telling the public which areas to avoid, is a good idea.

Update February 3, 2017 10:58 AM mtl Magazine has just published an app on Facebook which drastically reduces waiting time at the bar. But nothing about firing lethal weapons in Mt. Lebanon. Shaking my head.

Update February 5, 2017 7:10 AM Results of PG Poll

Update February 5, 2017 7:22 AM While the Post-Gazette continues to publish stories about lead in school drinking water (see Butler County school closed after increased lead levels found in water supply), John Hayes wrote this beauty. Lead ammo order won’t be enforced This is exactly what we have been saying for years. The meat that is going to food banks is tainted with lead. While everyone gets warm fuzzies because the venison is going to a good cause, think about how we are poisoning the less fortunate.

Update February 5, 2017 8:46 AM It's not all negative. I love the caption under the PG's photo. Look Up Lebo!

How to say "No," without saying "No" UPDATED 2X

From:	egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
To:	kmcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
Cc:	commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>; alauth <alauth@mtlebanon.org>
Subject:	Re: NextDoor, MTL home page THIRD REQUEST
Date:	Tue, Jan 31, 2017 6:08 pm

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THIRD REQUEST

Will the MLPD be notifying NextDoor readers?

Elaine Gillen

-----Original Message-----

From: Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>

To: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>

Cc: Commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>; Aaron Lauth <alauth@mtlebanon.org>

Sent: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 5:58 pm

Subject: Re: NextDoor, MTL home page SECOND REQUEST

Good evening Ms. Gillen,

While you are correct that the permit issued by the Game Commission allows deer removal to begin as early as tomorrow, an actual start date has not yet been determined. The program will be following the same protocols and procedures that were utilized as part of last years program.

Keith

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:48 PM, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:

"Sharpshooting" begins tomorrow, Commissioners. Will the MLPD be notifying NextDoor readers? 

Elaine Gillen

-----Original Message-----
From: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
To: commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>
Cc: kmcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>; alauth <alauth@mtlebanon.org>
Sent: Mon, Jan 30, 2017 7:58 am
Subject: NextDoor, MTL home page

Commissioners,

In case you missed it, I posted Keith's letter to the district concerning your "sharpshooting" program in my post, https://lebocitizens.blogspot.com/2017/01/bullets-never-cross-sidewalks.html Your announcements to this lethal program is always buried on the municipal website. 

I wonder if MLPD will be issuing the same suggestion in Keith's letter on NextDoor. Also, will his suggestion be posted on Facebook and other MTL social media?

Elaine Gillen

"Parents and teachers may want to tell children to avoid the designated parks after dark and suggest they use sidewalks/established safe walking routes instead of shortcuts through private properties."

Update February 1, 2017 10:12 AM Gee, how difficult was this? 

Update Feb. 1, 2017 4:42 PM 

From:	Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
To:	egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Subject:	Re: NextDoor, MTL home page THIRD REQUEST
Date:	Wed, Feb 1, 2017 4:38 pm

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Good afternoon Ms. Gillen,

Thank you for your input.

Keith

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:31 PM, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:

I have attached a partial email exchange that is from NextDoor. Unfortunately, I am unable to make a pdf of an entire page of comments. As I have indicated, I had also copied the Mt. Lebanon Police Department. 

As I suspected, the prokill folks are attacking my announcement, while there are others who have thanked me either publicly or privately since they were unaware of this program. I don't think you are being "transparent enough."

I wish you would be more transparent with your deer killing program. It just may save a life. A start may be to include announcements on Facebook, Twitter, LeboALERTS, and even NextDoor. 

Elaine Gillen

Lebo violated the Federal Gun-Free School Zone Act UPDATED

Look how close Rockwood Park is to Foster School. Mt. Lebanon had deer killed with guns in 2006-2008. They violated the Gun-Free School Zone Act. Nothing within 1,000 feet of a school. No amount of paint in soothing colors recommended by John, in the paint department of Rolliers would have made it OK. I was living a nightmare for two f-ing years. I called Tom Kelley in Public Works. I called Steve Feller. I called my commissioner. I was in tears, hearing the gunshots outside my window. Those bastards were breaking the law. Susan Morgans came up to me before a commission meeting and said, "How many times are you going to say the same thing over and over about the deer?" Oh, how I wish I knew this back then:

2007 USDA Activities Report

2008 USDA Activities Report

Reporting was changed to quadrants, rather than specific locations

I announced on NextDoor that if Ward 3 voters wanted another option for commission, to write in my name. I also had a link to my YouTube interview of April 27. Julie Daubner flagged it as inappropriate. Greg Daubner flagged an additional comment, as well. That is what is inappropriate here?

There is a wildlife center in Virginia that takes in dozens of fawns every year and then releases them when they are mature enough to go back into the wild.
http://wildlifecenter.org/critter-corner/current-patients/fawns-2015

Then there is Mt. Lebanon. Four NIMY signs were reported stolen over the weekend. Why? The deer are being killed, as they wanted. Deer are going to be killed until the end of January, year after year. Depending on the vote in January, more killing could go on through March.

Trees are being numbered and cleared out of Twin Hills Park. Why?

 


There are huge broken tree limbs hanging directly over trails. The park is neglected. I have never seen a public park in such hazardous condition anywhere.

The Eagle Scout bridge has graffiti on it.

And only God knows what this is in Twin Hills:

I was driving from Heidelberg today via Swallow Hill >Segar>Lakemont>and past Public Works, praying all the way that I wouldn't see a wounded deer. We shouldn't be living like this.

I am so upset that I sent the following email to the current commissioners, commission candidates, solicitor, and interim manager:

Good riddance to Tom Kelley, Steve Feller, and my former commissioner. I pleaded with them to stop the killing in Rockwood Park. I went through HELL from 2006-2008 when Mt. Lebanon was killing deer next to my house in Rockwood Park. 

Kristen Linfante, as my commissioner, had the audacity to tell me to seek help and advised that I see John in Rolliers' paint department so that he can recommend paint in soothing colors for my basement. 

I had been telling the commission many times over the last ten years how it is unsafe to be killing in Rockwood Park. I also had to put up with Susan Morgans with her snarky question before a commission meeting, "How many more times are you going to say the same thing over and over about the deer?" That was ten years ago. 

Fast forward to 2015. Six candidates on the ballot for commission. Only two are anti-violence. I can't even find an email address for one of the candidates who is pro-kill. You can all sit there in your homes and make these "well thought out" decisions to kill deer, but how many of you have been in a situation where you are lying in bed at night, trying to sleep in a vinyl siding addition with gunshots outside your bedroom window? I had just lost my husband and had no safe place to grieve. Now I find out, what Mt. Lebanon was doing was ILLEGAL! Rockwood Park is almost 716 feet from an elementary school, violating the federal Gun-Free School Zone Act. No guns within 1,000 feet from a school. How dare you! 

I was driving from Heidelberg today via Swallow Hill, Segar, Lakemont, and past Public Works praying that I wouldn't come across a wounded deer. What have you done to Mt. Lebanon?

As I said during Citizen Comments, Killing Anything, Anywhere, by Any Means is a PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. Thanks to you, we are afraid to walk our dogs, drive in our cars, and play in parks. How dare you!

Elaine Gillen