Tuesday, September 17, 2013

Letter to the Editor

Lebo Citizens reader and frequent commenter John David Kendrick volunteered to record State Representative Dan Miller's Democratic Policy Committee Hearing on Schools: The Role of the State, Parents, and the Community. John submitted the following letter to the editor.

Earlier this afternoon State Representative Dan Miller facilitated a meeting of the PA House Democratic Policy Committee at the Mt Lebanon Municipal Building. Representative Miller graciously permitted us to place our tape recorder right in front of him so that we could capture the entire meeting. The dialog of the entire meeting is posted here: State Rep. Dan Miller's Public Hearing

I want to personally thank Representative Miller for having this public meeting in our municipal building this afternoon. Whether or not you agree with the political positions of the participants, it is a great lesson in civics to watch how our government works. Everyone should make a reasonable effort to attend when these meetings are available. Finally, I’ll leave it to all of you to listen to the conversation and judge for yourselves and comment below; but I will offer some of my impressions from the meeting and a few questions to mull over as you listen to today’s presentation:
 
1. The comments from the three superintendents were largely gripes about charter and cyber schools. The first problem facing the districts is the loss of pupil revenue as students exit for cyber or charter schools. The second problem facing the districts is the lack of financial agility so that they can scale their resources in proportion to the loss of students who exercise their choice to leave. 
a. Has anyone thought about why these rigid, high fixed costs are in place?
b. Has anyone thought about who put these high fixed costs in place?
c. Would a district based cyber school be an effective alternative as the superintendents suggested, or would there be an agency problem where the fox (the teachers union) is watching the hen house? 
 
2. The comments concerning children with autism were interesting and heartfelt – particularly the commentary by Ward Three Commissioner Kristen Linfante. 
 
3. The final comments concerning drug related programs were largely related to stories about those who were impacted by drug abuse and the programs in place to assist victims of the drug epidemic.

There were a few moments that captured my curiosity: 
 
1. PA State Representative Margo Davidson said that she didn’t support the vilification of the cyber and charter schools. Why is it that an urban district representative from a major union city would value cyber or charter schools as an effective alternative to traditional classroom based instruction?
 
2. PA State Representative Erin Molchany asked the three superintendents for the career profile of their graduating classes – none were really able to provide a clear answer. 
a. Are our school districts executing an education process with a silo mentality?
b. Shouldn’t the schools be thinking about specific objectives and directing resources in a targeted manner to maximize the economic benefit from our expenditures in education? - and shouldn’t the school superintendents be tracking the successful assimilation of their graduates into PA’s economy and thinking about corrective actions to their programs if their students leave unprepared?

It was a good meeting, and the most of the participants were genuinely interested in the issues that they discussed. What I felt was missing was a high-level state initiative that could pull all of the issues, gripes and concerns into unified strategy that I feel could alleviate the symptoms of a much larger problem.

John David Kendrick

53 comments:

Anonymous said...

Excellent review and some thought-provoking questions/comments.

Peggy said...

Thank you John for attending. I really appreciate being able to read about this meeting. Very well written!!!

Anonymous said...

How many citizens attended?

John David Kendrick said...

Thank you for the compliments - I'm blushing!

There really weren't that many citizens in attendance - maybe 6-10 if even that. Most people seemed to leave after the superintendents stopped speaking.

There was one other comment that captured my attention, and it came from Mt Lebanon Police Chief McDonough. If I understood him correctly the police and the school district currently have a policy in place where the police let the school district (i.e. the teachers) decide whether a suspected offender is directed to counseling or prosecution.

How does that strike everyone? Would you want a Mt Lebanon teacher deciding whether or not to have your kid arrested?

It goes beyond the idea of teacher-police cooperation. Think of some of the people that we've had working up there.

Do you want these types of individuals deciding whether or not to ruin your kids life?

Lebo Citizens said...

John, perhaps people left early to pick up their kids from school.
Elaine

John David Kendrick said...

Elaine,

They could have left early to pick up their kids; or maybe they had to go to the second job that they need to pay their school taxes?

Anonymous said...

Mr. Kendrick, consider the alternative: The police would arrest all suspected offenders.

John David Kendrick said...

10:41 - actually, I would feel more comfortable if that were the case. WIth the current policy they are introducing variation into the process.

What happens if the teacher has a bias against certain groups?

What happens if someone gets to a teacher and convinces them to make a choice that they really shouldn't make?

There are a lot of cliques and friendships in Mt Lebanon. In my opinion the kids that go through these schools are not given equal opportunity or equal access to school resources. Do you want special consideration given to the kids of who's who versus the rest of us? Or for that matter, suppose one of the screaming Bolsheviks who have colonized the place over the years decide to put the screws to some kid that came from a wealthy family?

I just think that it's bad policy.

Lebo Citizens said...

John, isn't that the case with Blaise's 21 club?
Elaine

John David Kendrick said...

I don't know what the 21 club is but I am afraid to ask...

Soooooooo,............

What is the 21 Club?

Lebo Citizens said...

If you go through the dockets and pull up the athletes under 21, you may see cases delayed until after their 21st birthday. This allows them to get into schools with sports scholarships. They are given a warning to stay out of trouble or the next time, they get the book thrown at them.
Elaine

John David Kendrick said...

WOW!

Are you serious?

I am stunned!

Lebo Citizens said...

I understand that the 21 club is going away, thanks to the newly created Drug Task Force.
Elaine

Anonymous said...

6-10 attendees? More of the same if you ask me, a disengaged citizenry.

Anonymous said...

People don't take an interest. People should - and they should vote, but you're right, they don't.

Lebo Citizens said...

To be fair, 2-4 PM is a rather inconvenient time. It was a Democratic Policy Committee hearing. My guess is that they are held during business hours.
Elaine

Anonymous said...

Mr. Kendrick I hope you're not serious about being stunned by preferential treatment for athletes, those that are weel-heeled or know someone.
It goes on in college sports, politics... almost everywhere.

Why should it not exist in the bubble?

Anonymous said...

I am really not surprised that they get these special "considerations".

I don't like it, but there's nothing that I can do about it.

I think that a zero tolerance policy for drugs in public schools should be exactly that. Mt Lebanon has always has a ton of drugs in their schools. I don't think that when the media or public school teachers glorify drug use it helps to combat the problem, but that's just my opinion.

John David Kendrick

Anonymous said...

Good point Mr. K and I don't remember hearing anything or opinions on the two states recently legalizing marijuana, with eleven considering it, and Eric Holder having no intention of enforcing federal drug laws in the states that legalizing it.

It is a problem, a huge problem.

JE Cannon III said...

I have a hard time believing our police chief would defer to someone in the school regarding how to handle a possible criminal matter. Granted, police make judgement calls with every situation. And maybe there is a policy in place to get background on a particular student (which creates civil rights issues). But deferring to a school district employee? I highly doubt it. Our police chief and the force under his charge have proven themselves professional and capable thus far. And they do so in the face of rampant yet concealed criminal activity in our community. Want to spend the "unassigned funds" wisely? Make sure our cops ( and fire department) have what they need.

Anonymous said...

12:10 special allowances have to be made for some of the township's youth. Otherwise those who get into trouble might have to forgo a sweet educational ride at a prestigious institution and pursue a less desirable route in life. The teachers can help make this decision since they supposedly run everything else.

Anonymous said...

Agree Mr. Cannon., our Chief and his police department are top notch and Blaise runs a very fair district court.
The PD, the Fire Dept. and the court are above reproach.
The comment was made that decisions are being made on "special treatment".
Isn't that as it should be? A student that gets good grades, participates in extracurriculars, works, etc., should be given a break over the tardy, lazy, bad attitude kid.
While chief may or may not be aware of the kid, who better to vouch for character than a teacher.
There are some problems with this approach as we've seen with some professional atheletes that reach adulthood believing they are special though.

Anonymous said...

No 2:38pm, it is not as it should be.

No two people will be applying the same criteria to make that decision, and no consistent decision rule has been established for everyone to follow.

Should consideration be made on the type of contraban or the level in possesion? What about extracurricular activities? Are sports given one consideration and forensics or science club members another?

What about race? Would that be on anyone's mind? Maybe the adjudicator wants to teach a white kid a lesson?

Maybe the adjudicator had a bad day at work. Would that enter into the judgements being made?

The alternative is simple - a zero tollerance policy.

Besides, if the kid breaks the law then they really haven't achieved exempliary behavior, have they?

Anonymous said...

4:16, I believe a number of presidential candidates broke the law, should they be ineligible to serve as the top executive?
Obama admitted to doing drugs, Clinton did too, but he didn't inhale, I think I heard that Bush Jr. admitted to trying it.
Our laws, courts and judges allow for evaluation of the circumstances.
Two beers is about all it takes to put people over the legal limit for intoxication. Should we lock everyone up at beerfest?

Anonymous said...

Voters elect candidates, not courts.

If Beerfest participants drive drunk then the police have a duty to protect the drivers and the public by placing them under arrest and locking them up in a cage.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't talking about driving, talking public intoication.
I don't now if there is a alcohol blood level for public intoxication like there is for drunk driving.
Logic would suggest intoxication is intoxication.

Anonymous said...

5:17 would Clinton have bern eligible for or lost his Rhodes Scholar status iif he had gotten a drug conviction?

Anonymous said...

Do we need to raise the allowable level for intoxication? How about lowering the age limit for consuming alcohol? Maybe everyone should be given a mulligan on their first arrest for public intoxication. Just explain the rules so everyone knows what the penalty is for drinking and being caught would be a good start.

Anonymous said...

If life were only black and white.

Lebo Citizens said...

Isn't zero tolerance pretty much black and white?
Elaine

Anonymous said...

Yes, I suppose it is. I'm told that an underage or DUI while prohitis an education major from getting a teaching degree, should a 4.0 graduate be denied his teaching certificate because he attended a frat party?
How about a decorated police officer that gets a DUI? Should he lose his license and be prevented from patrolling for one nights indiscretion.
How about a Medal of Honor winner or 911 fireman that slips and has a beer to many, should he be penalized for his first offense the same as the bum that sits at a bar stool night after night on his?
See Ithink there are varibles and hopefully we can truct in people like Blaise, the Chief to make the right call.
I can see the zero tolerance argument though.

John David Kendrick said...

Isn't anyone interested in discussing some of the important issues that were presented during the meeting?

Anonymous said...

I thought we were, though I doubt we'll solve any of them here.
It is food for thought.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Kenderick, to get the ball rolling.
The Supers made some points with me on the reimbursements to charter schools.
I'd suggest if you make some concessions to the Supers they must be coupled with closer scrutiny of the public school district.
Say a certain percentage of students bolt for charters, mandatory and extensive audits of the district and parent questionaires are started by the PDE tto find out why?

On drugs and alcohol I'm torn. Their use seems to be skyrocketing and that is bad, very bad.
Can the PD or Blaise change that with zero tolerance, i suspect not with the media drug and rap culture the kids are bombarded with and the progressive effort to legalize pot nationwide.

On the autism issue, its not something I have studied much so I can't form an opinion.

Anonymous said...

http://teens.drugabuse.gov/blog/post/how-many-teens-actually-smoke-drink-or-do-drugs

Lebo Citizens said...

I debated about removing the 9:41 PM comment. Instead, i will only say that we have young people dying from drug overdoses.
Elaine

Anonymous said...

80% of kids today experiment with substances. Wake up Mt. Lebanon.

Also, surely all the haters for mercy from the magistrate for kids that don't have any history, ask yourselves if you ever drank underage? Had you been caught should your high school and thus college career have been stripped away? Would you have deserved to be criminalized?

Don't espouse that holier than thou B.S., you did it to. The kids in LEBO of the previous generation went "garaging"...

John David Kendrick said...

It's unfortunate that our school districts don't have the agility to scale their programs in proportion to demand.

How did this happen?

Was there a motivation based on educational quality, or was the teachers union seizing one opportunity after another?

John David Kendrick said...

Sorry 10:41, but even at my age I have never taken a drink, and I've never experimented with illegal drugs. There are some of us who choose to maintain a healthy lifestyle.

Anonymous said...

JDK, chose to maintain a healthy lifestyle since age 12? Really? I bet you never ate a twinkie...LOL

Anonymous said...

Elaine, the 9:41 postdidn't take a position for or against drugs. It was only offered to show what the government believes is teen usage of tobacco, alcohol, pot and prrscription drugs.

I believe the estimates are low, but not quite as high as 10:41's numbers.

You are correct about kids dying, but I'm not sure if there is a simple answer.
This country applied zero tolerance with alcohol and what happened?

Anonymous said...

The number for the 10:41 post came from a pediatrician with extensive knowledge on the subject of substance abuse among adolescents IN MT. LEBANON. Believe what you want, 11:35, but it's reliable information.

Anonymous said...

Our magistrate won't drive after dark because of the level of drugs and alcohol on the road in Mt. Lebanon but he does have a 21 club for certain "connected" kids. One was given two years "good behavior" on his alcohol hearing, after which the hearing was delayed until after his 21st birthday. Our magistrate has a double standard for the kids of his buddies and your life is in danger if you drive after dark.

I'll believe the 21 club went away after the court documents tell me the magistrate can stand up to his sports buddies.

John David Kendrick said...

Let's think about this from a different perspective. What is waiting for the kids on the other end if they choose not to take drugs and suffer the adverse cinsequences of a zero tollerance policy?

Do they believe that they will have a better life with greater opportunity than their parents generation; or do they see the world wuthout hope and full of despair?

Are we building an economic future for them, or are we conditioning the next generation to "hang on" while the ship continues to sink?

Face it, if their generation believes that there is nothing left to hope for, then they will give up.

Anonymous said...

Off topic - for serious readers,

The Financial Times and Goldman Sachs Business Book of the Year Award long list was released. The award honors the book that offers the most moving and enjoyable insight into modern business issues. The short list will be announced on September 16, with the winner revealed on October 27. This year's longlist features several books focused on the financial crisis.
The books selected follow. Read any of these?
Ian Bremmer, 'The End of the Free Market: Who Wins the War Between States and Corporations?' (Portfolio/Penguin)
John Cassidy, 'How Markets Fail: The Logic of Economic Calamities' (Allen Lane/Penguin Press UK, Farrar, Straus and Giroux US)
Patrick Dillon and Carl M. Cannon, 'Circle of Greed: The Spectacular Rise and Fall of the Lawyer Who Brought Corporate America to Its Knees' (Random House/Crown Publishing Group, Broadway Books)
Fred Goodman, 'Fortune's Fool: Edgar Bronfman, Jr., Warner Music, and an Industry in Crisis' (Simon & Schuster)

Adam Haslett, 'Union Atlantic: A Novel' (Tuskar Rock/Atlantic Books, Doubleday/Nan A Talese)

Sheena Iyengar, 'The Art of Choosing' (Little, Brown, Twelve/Hachette Group)
Walter Kiechel, 'The Lords of Strategy: The Secret Intellectual History of the New Corporate World' (Harvard Business Review Press)
David Kirkpatrick, 'The Facebook Effect: The Inside Story of the Company That Is Connecting the World' (Simon & Schuster)
Michael Lewis,'The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine' (Allen Lane/Penguin Press UK, WW Norton & Co US)
Sebastian Mallaby, 'More Money than God: Hedge Funds and the Making of a New Elite' (Bloomsbury, Penguin Press)
Bethany McLean and Joe Nocera, 'All the Devils Are Here: The Hidden History of the Financial Crisis' (Portfolio/Penguin)
Hamish McRae, 'What Works: Success in Stressful Times' (Harper Press/HarperCollins)
Raghuram Rajan, 'Fault Lines: How Hidden Fractures Still Threaten the World Economy' (Princeton University Press)
Matt Ridley, 'The Rational Optimist: How Prosperity Evolves' (Harper/Fourth Estate, HarperCollins Publishers)
Andrew Ross Sorkin, 'Too Big to Fail: The Inside Story of How Wall Street and Washington Fought to Save the Financial System - and Themselves' (Allen Lane/Penguin Press UK, Viking/Penguin US)
Don Tapscott and Anthony Williams, 'MacroWikinomics: Rebooting Business and the World' (Atlantic Books, Portfolio/Penguin)



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Anonymous said...

Here is what zero tollerance means to me...my 18 year old daughter, who has had a runny nose for several days, is prohibited from bringing Sudafed to school to treat her symptoms every 4 hours.

Anonymous said...

Did a doctor prescribe her treatment?

Anonymous said...

11:12, not necessarily a doctor, but a licensed health care provider.
See policy JLCD
http://www.mtlsd.org/district/stuff/policy/jlcd%20administering%20%20medicines%20to%20students.pdf

Anonymous said...

10:12, did the SD refuse to allow your daughter to take the medicine that was prescribed by her health care provider?

Would you please tell us what they did to her?

Anonymous said...

So what is the bottom line on how teachers decide whether to report a kid who is sitting in class high? I'd like to know. Please. Anyone know the framework provided for them? The h.s. kids know who is high. Why is it so hard for teachers to take a stand and intervene? They aren't doing anybody any favors by pretending that drug use doesn't exist among kids here.Loads of these kids wait until school time to get high so their parents don't figure it out.

Anonymous said...

@6:56
Sudafed is an over the counter medication. She is 18 years old.
You don't need a health care provider to prescribe an OTC med. Under the current rules, she can not bring this med to school based on the zero tollerance policy.

Lebo Citizens said...

9:05 AM, I know it has been a few years since I had a child at the high school, so things have changed, but this is what we had to do for headaches. A bottle of the OTC medication was kept in the nurse's office with a note from the pediatrician saying how the nurse was to dispense it on an as needed basis. Is that option available, 9:05 AM?
Elaine

Anonymous said...

Policy JICH specifically refers to pseudoepedrine by name:
The prohibitions contained in Paragraph 1 above shall apply to non-controlled substances
containing ... pseudeophedrine ... or products represented to have a stimulant, depressant or
hallucinogenic effect on humans.

http://www.mtlsd.org/district/stuff/policy/jich%20student%20drug%20and%20alcohol%20offenses.pdf