Thursday, March 13, 2014

Assessments and Regressive Property Taxes - Open Letter

The following is an open letter to Dave Brumfield from Lebo Citizens reader and Mt. Lebanon resident, Steve Diaz.

Dave: I write this open letter to you this morning after reading about the hearing on Tuesday about property tax assessment appeals taken against residents by the municipality. This is a matter of justice, fairness, and just doing the right thing.

First, I notice that you are quoted in the paper as saying that the more recent the sale of a home, the closer to sales price the assessment should be. This is an opaque comment, but reveals a serious flaw. If, as you are reported as having said, the difference in assessments is in the six figure range for homes recent sold over those with longer-term residents, then you must admit that the system is inherently unfair and unreasonable. For example, how long have you lived in your home? Would you volunteer to file an appeal of your own assessment to see it raised to its current "market value"? Do you think that if you sold your home it would be reasonable for the buyer to pay taxes on an assessment that is six figures higher than that on which you are paying? Or, put another way, is it fair for you not to pay property taxes on the same current "market value" that you would expect any buyer of your home to pay? You see it is a case of whose ox gets gored: so long as you can live with an outdated low (hence unfair) valuation, you don't care if someone else is taxed on an unjust higher basis than you are. I recently asked you if you would file an appeal to raise your own taxes, and your response was "Why would I do that?" Well, I agree that none of us wants our assessment increased -- and it is not reasonable of you to insist that some pay based of "market value" (meaning sales price) and some on another basis (by the way, "sales price" is not the standard, as you know -- even though "sales price" is the basis for assessment that the municipality argues in the property assessment appeals it files against its citizens). If market value is to be the measure, why should you not pay property taxes based on a current market value assessment like any new buyer? You see, this is one way in which the local governments (the municipality and the school district) enforce inequality and unfairness in order to support their profligate and excessive spending, without feeling the pinch themselves personally. This is a case of moral and ethical callousness towards your fellow citizens that is unworthy of a public official; you are a lawyer, are you not concerned with Equal Protection of the Law?

Second, property taxes are, in their nature, regressive. As you know, property taxes are a holdover from the Middle Ages when such taxes were imposed on the premise that the ownership of land implied income (or ability to pay), predicated on the agricultural nature of European society hundreds of years ago. Today, it is simply ridiculous to assume that living in a home is any measure of "ability to pay." We receive no rents from tenant farmers, or from our own farming (even if we can legally keep half a dozen chickens in Mt. Lebanon). Moreover, many of our residents are seniors living on fixed incomes. There is no reason for "ability to pay" taxes -- such as sales taxes (which are used for the purpose in Europe today), or income taxes (which reflect actual cash flow) should not replace property taxes entirely for single family residential property. Yet, I hear no clammer for such reform from municipal hall.

Third, the school district is in deficit because of its own excessive spending (which you are known to support). The municipality is not far behind. To rectify such spending errors, public entities should be forced to go into bankruptcy, as individuals who incur debts they cannot repay must do --- not drive the local citizens into individual bankruptcy or foreclosure because we cannot afford the overspending of undisciplined public officials who seek to spend other people's money too freely, or to buy reelection by pandering to political "wants" in excess of the means of the community.

I appeal to your own sense of fairness and common sense -- stop the abuse of municipal appeals of assessments on home resale, unless you are prepared to live by the same measure of taxable equity as everyone else.

Respectfully. Steve.

PS. I note that your public posture and your private assurances to citizens are not always the same -- why? SD

Steven A. Diaz
Mt. Lebanon Resident and Taxpayer.

36 comments:

Anonymous said...


Here are your Commissioners failing to practice what they preach. In my opinion, this is scandalous and deserving of attention from the media in light of the expanded scope of appeals.

John Bendel
458 Arden Rd.
Sale Date: 5/12/1995
Sale Price: $148,000
2014 Assessed Value: $226,000
2014 Zillow Estimate: $263,734

Steve Silverman
154 James Pl.
Sale Date: 12/6/2005
Sale Price: $660,000
2014 Assessed Value: $591,000
2014 Zillow Estimate: $799,108

Kristen Linfante
85 Roycoft Ave.
Sale Date: 9/8/2005
Sale Price: $359,000
2014 Assessed Value: $315,300
2014 Zillow Estimate: $445,267

David Brumfield
713 Crystal Dr.
Sale Date: 6/29/1998
Sale Price: $105,500
2014 Assessed Value: $132,200
2014 Zillow Estimate: $160,602

Kelly Fraasch
32 Academy Ave.
Sale Date: 8/11/2009
Sale Price: $190,000
2014 Assessed Value: $188,800
2014 Zillow Estimate: $245,734

Anonymous said...

Note all but one of the above sale dates are suspiciously prior to the new appeals "cut-off" of 2006.

Lebo Citizens said...

Since Bendel and Silverman voted no, are they off the hook?
The school district will gain from this. Has anyone looked up school board members and Timmy's sale dates and prices? Timmy lives on Standish.
Jan Klein moved out of Mt. Lebanon just prior to the great Mt. Lebanon heist of 2010, a 10.5% tax increase.
Elaine

Unknown said...

A 'No' vote doesn't always mean they are against it, it could be downvoted for the perception that you are against it to pad your "indepedent" voting record against your own party. It's a political savvy move.

Anonymous said...

Timothy Steinhauer
55 Standish Blvd.
Sale Date: 8/27/2009
Sale Price: $599,900 (Zillow)
Sale Price: $550,000 (County)
2014 Assessed Value: $503,400
2014 Zillow Estimate: $613,121

Anonymous said...

Hold on Steve!

Didn't you just buy a new home?

Are you appealing to Brumfield out of compassion or to save your own skin?

Anonymous said...

I think its great that under assessed properties will be reassessed based on the recent sales price. Its pathetic to hear Diaz and the others wail that its unfair. Its perfectly fair. Steve, please have faith in free markets. Free markets work. Convoluted arguments don't.

Anonymous said...

Cheap shot, 3:53.

Unknown said...

4:20PM, I do believe it is unfair to only target a few houses. If you want completely fair, you target every single house in Mt Lebanon no matter if they are over or under-assessed and base their taxes on a full appraisal every year there is a reassessment.

My opinion, which means little to anyone other than me, is that we should do entirely away with property tax and go to a straight sales tax system. This will be fair for everyone.

Anonymous said...

What about homes that are under-assessed without a recent sales price? those are ok? There are plenty of examples of under assessed properties that have not recently sold, it just requires more work for them. And is 8 years ago recent - really? They plan to go back that far and who seriously thinks those homes are still only worth what was paid in 2006?

Anonymous said...

4:20 sure its great that recently purchased homes that are way under their purchase price are appealed.

But you don't say anything about what we do with homes purchased prior to 2006 that would surely go on the market for a lot more than their assessed value?

How about homes that put a 2,000 sq ft addition on or make an $80,000 kitchen remodeling, should their assessment be appealed? How about a building permit automatically generates a muni/SD appeal after the work is completed?

Property assessments as they stand now is an absurd, grossly unfair system. Every time they do one its claimed to be accurate, but we still go through years of spending millions reassessing the reassessment!

Anonymous said...

3:53...
to paraphrase Brumfield ""Why wouldn't he do that?"

Your comment is definitely a cheap shot. Why?
Because Diaz is protecting his own interest.
Brumfield on the other hand is covering his and his pals wallets while going after other peoples' pocketbook.

The system stinks - is grossly unfair as proved by Mortel's excellent analysis on Bloglebo.

Lebo Citizens said...

Thanks for spilling the beans. I better not publish that address since I have already received warnings of pending lawsuits from that family.
Elaine

JH said...

I'm meeting with a PG reporter on Sunday to discuss the scandal that is the Commissioners' hypocrisy. I wonder how their neighbors and the community at large will view their aggressive push to have their neighbors, but not themselves, pay more. If anyone would like to join me in this meeting, please leave a message.

Richard Gideon said...

Once again the argument comes down to the truculent vs. the envious. It is the entire concept of taxing non-productive real property that is the problem, and arguing about what is "fair" and "who should pay what" is nothing more than the dog chasing its tail.

Certainly free markets work; certainly the only way to know what a property is worth is to sell it; certainly those who bought many years ago are likely not paying as much real estate tax as those who purchased a home recently; and none of that gets to the heart of the problem!

Here is the libertarian (free minds - free markets) side of the issue: Private real property that is not used for business purposes produces no income. A real estate tax on such property is actually a bill for municipal and school district services, paid out of the owner's income. That income is NOT derived from his or her property. Therefore, since non-productive real estate produces no income the real estate tax is fictitious; the value of the tax bears no mathematical relationship to the income stream out of which the tax is paid.

Trying to reform real estate taxes is like trying to teach a pig to sing; it can't be done, and it irritates the pig.

Anonymous said...

Well said Richard.

As for spilling the beans, Elaine. There are probably a number of homes that made significant improvements to their property that raised its value, after their reassessments

Anonymous said...

Now I am wondering what beans were spilled because I didn't spill mine! And I have a feeling they are not the same.

Anonymous said...

Here's what I find irritating about Brumfield's reported retort to Diaz -- "Why would I do that?"

I would immediately turn it on him.
If my kids played all their field sports on MTL grass fields, moved away, bought a home elsewhere orhave no intention of ever moving back--
"Why would I do that?" Allow my tax dollars to be spent on $1.2 million on artificial turf!
Its not in my interest Mr. Brumfield, just like paying a fair share isn't in yours.

Anonymous said...

Since the county appraisers don't enter or even walk around each and every property during reassessments and interesting project would be to make a comparison of building permits with the sq. ft., number of bathrooms, finished basements, additions with the information listed on the property by the county.
Homeowners are not required to admit the appraisers so the county really has no idea of the real market value of the home.
A finished basement, an additional bathroom, granite counter tops, a 50s kitchen vs a 2013 kitchen etc. can dramatically change the market value of a home.

Anonymous said...

http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/articles/2014/03/06/which-home-remodeling-projects-are-worth-your-money

Interesting. A number of these projects could add thousands of dollars to a homes market value and be completely  overlooked in a reassessment.

A competent handyman could easily finish a basement or convert an older home's attic into a spare bedroom and it would go unnotice by the assessors.

So a home purchased in say 1978, 1980, 1990 or 2004 could easily have a market value higher than a recently purchased home on the same street.
The recent purchase is scrutinized by the realtor and buyers establishing a fair market price.
The older home flies under the fair market until it goes on the open market.

Anonymous said...

Is the goal to turn in your neighbor to the County for inaccurate assessment data? Dave B... Are you going to turn in your friend across the street that has a double lot but is assessed as just a single? Or do your "friends" get a pass?

Lebo Citizens said...

I don't know why, but the 3/11/14 commission meeting video is not available on the municipal website. The only recording available is on my website, Lebo Citizens.
I will not be able to attend the March 24 commission meeting, due to a work conflict. Will someone please volunteer to record it for me, in case this happens again?
Elaine

Anonymous said...

9:38 PM We are told that when building permits are issued for property renovations, remodeling, additions, improvements, etc. in addition to new construction, the building permit information is submitted to the County property assessment folks at the completion of the project with a value estimate by the Inspection Dept., not that submitted by the property owner or contractors.

This information is supposedly used by the County for interim assessment changes based on the improvements and/or for future County wide reassessments. Mt. Lebanon passed a Resolution or Ordinance years ago to require the County to incorporate the submitted permit info into property records upon receipt, and not what had become a usual 2-year or more delay under their traditional "business as usual" practice. In spite of this, I doubt that the County fully complies.

The dollar amount of annual renovation, remodeling and improvement of existing property in Lebo based on building permits is really substantial, ten's of millions of dollars each year.

And we also all know a lot of improvements are done behind the scenes without required permits.

Lebo Citizens said...

Commission meeting video is up.
Elaine

Anonymous said...

Look at the Upward Taxable Changes of the Top Nineteen Properties assessed in Mount Lebanon:

TAXABLE CHANGE
$18,749,700
$7,290,680
$5,378,300
$4,526,100
$4,465,500
$3,919,900
$2,670,400
$2,543,100
$2,199,200
$2,159,500
$2,090,000
$2,060,300
$1,784,300
$1,632,400
$1,288,200
$1,265,300
$1,248,900
$1,183,600



Anonymous said...

The latest target for appeal will likely be Pendale Towers apartments at 460 Washington Rd. which sold for $8.15 million on 2/10/2014. The county 2014 assessed value was $6.0 million.

Anonymous said...

What is the assessment on the Zamiagis property? He paid $1.5 million for those lots.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know what's happening at the old BP gas station across from the Galleria?

Anonymous said...

5:00 PM Zamagias Properties consolidated eight parcels they acquired for the luxury condo project at a total cost of $1,520,000 into a single parcel. They used only one former Parking Authority Parcel ID 98-P-100 for the County recording. They consolidated with a request to and the recommendation of the Mt. Lebanon Planning Board and received Commission approval in 2011. But they did so in County records by not assigning the cost of the parcel assemblage at what they paid for them - $1,520,000 - but at only the $520,000 paid for the 98-P-100 single parcel. The true cost of the consolidated parcel is understated by $1,000,000 in the County record.

The 2013 County reassessment based on the erroneous $520,000 cost figure was reduced to $428,000, which Zamagias immediately appealed, but then dropped the appeal. Perhaps in fear of the true cost irregularities being exposed during a formal appeal process ?

None of the taxing bodies have done anything about this. And Mt. Lebanon continues trying to work out a way for Zamagias to go forward with a project. Go figure !

Anonymous said...

11:18 PM Yeah, Franklin's gonna lease it as the fundraising headquarters for artificial turf projects at Wildcat/Middle, the Rock Pile and McNeilly. There will be students with donation cans and signs at all corners and traffic lights wearing Lebo athletic uniforms shortly when the weather warms a bit. Will the BP station itself be covered in Dick's signs as well ?

Mt. Lebanon will waive all zoning regulations because "it's for the children".

Anonymous said...

12:04, will those kids with donation cans on the street corners be collecting for sports or the school district?

For an affluent community that looks down on so many others we sure as hell do a lot of begging!

Blighted properties, crying to Harrisburg to send money... whew when does it stop?

Anonymous said...

When does it stop? Easy. Just send all of your money to the district. Tell them to use what they need and send the balance back to you.

Anonymous said...

11:49,

Let me get this straight. Zamagias gets $1,000,000 knocked of his purchase price for his new development land on Washington Road while newcomers to Mount Lebanon who are home owners get their assessments marked up.

Why would anyone buy a home here?

Anonymous said...

The municipality is not going after commercial properties at all. They are appealing residential properties only.

Anonymous said...

It is very interesting that those who refuse to see the "fairness" of equal tax assessment policy want to attack me because I point out the hypocrisy of their position. Who among these name-callers pays more tax on more value than is assessed? So, let's call it for what it is and say that the ad hominem personal attacks are just the device by which those who pay the bills are threatened by "Anonymous" (if you were not an intellectual coward your opinion would bear your name). Yes, I fight for tax equity for all, including myself, what's wrong with that? At least I have not wasted the fruits of the labor of my neighbors. It is time for the bullies to get off their high horses. It is time for this community to value honesty, integrity, and truth telling above promises, false statements, and the downright meanness of those who can see only one side to any proposition. To paraphrase: "an open mind is a terrible thing to waste."

Your Neighbor,
Steve Diaz

Anonymous said...

For anonymous at 8:22 on 3/19: The deal is that the municipality goes after home owners while the school board does the dirty deed for commercial properties. The interesting thing is how many rationalizations there are for making the other guy pay. How many commissioners and school board members have prompted the county assessor to note that their own property is underassessed... (we do know that at least one school director has appealed to have her property assessment reduced).....it's just that consistency thing, again.....and one hand washing the other