On the agenda,
2014-2015 Proposed Final Budget: RESOLVED, That the Board approves a Proposed Final Budget in the amount of $87,924,509, at a millage rate of 23.15 mills, a .54 mill increase from 2013-14, utilizing $750,000 of the fund balance in the form presented.For those new to the system, residents are permitted to speak for four minutes at the beginning of the meeting, only on action items on the agenda. I see that Bill Matthews has requested to speak. My guess it is concerning the Proposed Final Budget. I hope President Cappucci actually listens to him this time instead of watching the time clock. Last year, she was very rude to him.
Furthermore, the Board intends to vote on a Final Budget with such changes as it deems necessary at its May 19, 2014 meeting.
Last year, the school board was a smidgeon more transparent than they are this year. Last year, a list of suggested cost reductions was published and discussed at a separate Budget Forum. This year, we will learn more about the "Final Budget with such changes as it deems necessary at its May 19, 2014 meeting."
Another very important topic, which started prior to the newcomers' arrival is the high school renovation. The Almanac reports in the article Retirements, tuition payments will help close Lebo budget gap (Saved in Google Docs) concerning the $91,713 change order on the agenda:
the installation of additional sprinklers in the catwalk area above the auditorium. Project plans had not flagged this as occupied space.
Architect Tom Celli said this was a miss by the design team. “When you have a project of this size and complexity, with materials and controls coming from all over the country, these things are going to happen. We have gotten nothing but great feedback, whether from people in the community or those who have competed in the gym or the swimming pool.”I am glad that Dan Remely didn't throw Fire Chief Sohyda under the bus, as he had done in the past. I question Celli's comment about the great feedback about the swimming pool. I understand that the railing reported in the Fall is still taped off with caution tape.
The Almanac article continues with
contractors have billed 72 percent of construction costs, and have used 71 percent of the project’s contingency funds.
Both Celli and project manager Tom Berkebile expressed confidence that the project would finish within the established contingency.
“It’s going to be close,” Berkebile said, “but I still feel confident we’re going to get there.”What that means is that the project should have gone to Referendum, but it would never have passed. If they go over, then voters get to decide to leave a school partially completed, or approve the project after the fact. We were told that the high school renovation would bring people to the community, similar to the rhetoric we are hearing about the artificial turf on Cedar Blvd. Aren't you glad you moved here?
If newcomers (and any other residents) wish to speak about items unrelated to the agenda, you must wait until the end of the meeting, where you are given five minutes to speak. Warning, the school board will be watching the clock instead of listening to what you have to say. These are the same people who have been working with Diversified Municipal Services for years. Enough said.
84 comments:
The 0.54 mill increase amounts to a 2.3% increase versus the Act 1 max limit of 1.7%, I believe. Their "fake budget" submission to the PDE in January was unfortunately accepted without question and waivers requested based on the "fake budget" were granted.
How much over 10% in dollars was the District's undesignated fund balance at the time they decided to take down $750,000 for the 2014-15 budget ?
We will not be able to learn if the actual real estate tax collection for 2013-14 is under, over or at the maximum 5% increase allowed over the actual 2012-13 collections until the 2013-14 audit is completed in November. In the meantime, the District is increasing 2014-15 millage by 0.54 mills, or 2.3% v. 1.7% allowed by Act 1.
The whole process is convoluted and corrupt !
This is exactly why we need PA Senate Bill 76!
FACT:
SB 76 lets local school districts retain the ability to raise revenues through income taxes or other means (except property taxes) and [REQUIRES VOTER APPROVAL FOR ANY NEW TAXES OR TAX INCREASES THEY PROPOSE.]
http://realreform76.com/myths-vs-facts/#.U0m1kSd5mc0
Is the Rock Pile turf in this budget or is that a different capital project budget?
No, it is slated for 2016.
Elaine
What about the dome that will cover the "Rock Pile"? How much more $$$$ will the slimy commissioners and SB gang steal from me? When does Brumfield declare that there isn't any corruption here? Before getting my hopes up is there any chance to get rid of any of them before they are able to change the Home Rule Charter?
8:03, only if the electorate has the tenacity and will to stand up and say in unison-- 'NO MORE!'
Congrats go to the SB, the teachers, the parents and tax payers as well as the students of Mt lebanon, Lebo has been rated the best school district in the county!
11:06 Poverty matters.
The schools rankings in affluent districts have the highest rankings, and the schools in districts with high levels of poverty have the lowest rankings.
Source: Perhaps the largest body of research within the field of education.
That jump from #2 to #1 only cost around $2,000,000, 11:06.
Plus, isn't it funny that it occurred in the midst of intense construction at the high school.
Makes one wonder just how important the role of the building is in educating kids!
@11:06, we are finally seeing the effect of expanding the free/reduced lunch program. This was identified a few years ago as holding back our rankings. This is what we get in strategic planning from the SB and administration.
Hey John at 11:06 PM, yeah, we're #1 but in a failing state and county education system, and the flawed liberal progressive belief that it will get better only if you throw more tax money into the bottomless pit.
By the way, John, how's the $6 million fundraising scheme going ?
Before we jump to conclusions, here are all the rankings listed in the Pittsburgh Business Times 2014 Guide to Western Pennsylvania Schools.
Elaine
You will never see the complete listing on the MTLSD website.
Elaine
US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT
BEST HIGH SCHOOLS FOR 2013
(the 2014 survey will be out on April 22nd)
PENNSYLVANIA:
#1 Julia R. Masterman Laboratory and Demonstration School
1699 SPRING GARDEN ST, PHILADELPHIA, PA 19130
#2 Lehigh Valley Academy Reg Charter School
1560 VALLEY CENTER PARKWAY, BETHLEHEM, PA 18017
#3 Northwest Pennsylvania Collegiate Academy
2825 STATE ST, ERIE, PA 16508
#4 Wyomissing Area Junior/Senior High School
630 EVANS AVE, WYOMISSING, PA 19610
#5 Conestoga High School
200 IRISH RD, BERWYN, PA 19312
#6 Central High School
1700 WEST OLNEY AVE, PHILADELPHIA, PA 19141
#7 Upper St. Clair High School
1825 MCLAUGHLIN RUN RD, PITTSBURGH, PA 15241
#8 Radnor High School
130 KING OF PRUSSIA RD, RADNOR, PA 19087
#9 Lower Moreland High School
555 RED LION RD, HUNTINGDON VALLEY, PA 19006
#10 Unionville High School
750 UNIONVILLE RD, KENNETT SQUARE, PA 19348
MTLSD proposes raising expenditures this year by $2.6 million.
Every democratic candidate running for governor proposes raising taxes (taxes whether imposed on corporations or individuals eventually come out of individuals wallets) to send even more money to public education.
Here's and interesting fact people need to understand.
http://www.commonwealthfoundation.org/docLib/20140303_FullPageFinal2.pdf
Make sure to study the graph in the following link. Note the rapidly escalating state and local spending on education.
http://www.commonwealthfoundation.org/policyblog/detail/myth-pa-spends-less-on-education
The Commonwealth foundation, a right wing think tank with an agenda.
As opposed to a left wing group with an agenda.
Elaine
Yes, there are left wing think tanks with agenda's, but 10:54 didn't link to any of their sites.
11:15, numbers don't have a political affiliation!
Of course the well-funded teachers' union doesn't have an agenda... right?
# 4 Wyomissing was the District that the Asst. Super who then Super. Marge Sable brought to Lebo went to after Lebo terminated Sable, took the Asst. Super's responsibilities away from her, placed her in a small windowless office with no secretarial help and nothing to do, and then did not renew her contract. Her performance ratings prior to that had been exemplary.
This is a glaring example of the vindictive and cruel kind of people we far too often elect to school boards.
11:25 AM perhaps better stated - as opposed to the left wing PSEA union and statewide affiliates with an agenda.
9:30 AM is PA still ranked #45 in the US in public education, and the US ranked #17 in the industrialized nations of the world ?
Yeah, we have a lot to crow about - just send the public education establishment more money. They'll claim as they always have that "it's for the children", but we know better. Unfortunately our elected state and federal legislators don't cause they're bought and paid for by the education and construction unions.
Of course the PSEA has no agenda... right 11:15?
http://www.commonwealthfoundation.org/policyblog/detail/are-teachers-union-dues-used-for-politics
Which side of the penny do you think the PA Realtors Association falls on with their support of SB 76... the right or the left?
http://mediatrackers.org/pennsylvania/2014/04/09/philadelphia-school-spending-test-scores-show-little-correlation
"Nationwide, and state-by-state, data shows despite more and more taxpayer money being pumped into public education, SAT scores remain at relatively the same level. Pennsylvania is no exception and the scores have even declined over the past 40 years.
Not only did Coulson find no correlation between increases in education spending and SAT scores, but he also found that in states where education spending declined, there was not a noticeable decline in SAT scores.
“Their score trends seem entirely disconnected from their rising and falling levels of spending,” Coulson concluded."
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, 11:15.
Before the school district breaks its arm patting itself on the back for being #1, some interesting numbers on Student Mean SAT Scores from the 2013-14 Budget Report- page 168 of 207.
2003 - 1146
2004 - 1146
2005 - 1150
2006 - 1168
2007 - 1141
2008 - 1145
2009 - 1147
2010 - 1129
2011 - 1164
2012 - 1127
In 2005-06 there were 5,840 students.
In 2012-13 there were 5,018 students.
So how much did the district spend per student in '04 vs what they are proposing to spend in 2014-15?
Do I understand "the $91,713 change order on the agenda:
the installation of additional sprinklers in the catwalk area above the auditorium. Project plans had not flagged this as occupied space." to mean the tax payers in the Township will pick up the cost of the oversight? Why should the tax payers be responsible for architectural and construction mistakes?
How many of us can sit in front of our boss or client and proclaim this project is just too complex and the... take your pick... sprinklers, boiler water feeds, etc., etc., ...were just a simple over sight.
I know in my occupation, I'd promptly be shown the door!
12:01, I believe Elaine would publish your links to wing think tank informations.
I know I'll read it, I love hearing information from both sides so that I may become better informed.
By the way, how come you don't admonish school board members when they present one agenda?
Correction @ 2:43.
12:01, I believe Elaine would publish your links to left leaning think tank agendas.
The school board will be approving the 2014-15 Proposed Final Budget on Tuesday. Here is additional information from the Budget web page:
"The School Board gave direction to Dr. Steinhauer to prepare a proposed final budget with a .55 millage increase or lower, if possible, and the use of approximately $750,000 of fund balance. The Board discussed adding $160,000 in additional revenue from accepting foreign exchange tuition students and reducing about $240,000 in staff accounts for possible additional retirements and potential leaves of absences. In the proposed final budget there will be minor reductions in operating costs, no program cuts or staff reductions. "
Just an FYI for those who are more concerned about the budget. "Possible additional retirements" could pertain to a well paid administrator rumored to retire for a few years now.
Elaine
Did we ever have a budget based on words such as "Possible" or "Potential" or "Discussed?" Those choice words represent $400,000.
Don't we have a right to know what the minor reductions in operating costs are?
There is no sun shining on this 2014-15 proposed budget. No transparency.
Elaine
When all of this settles-out and we are left with the remains of what was once a great community, I would really love to see a future Commission, with newly elected officials, hold public hearings as a fact-finding forum. The people who will be left in Mt Lebanon have a right to know what transpired and how all of this happened. The Commission can use their subpoena powers to collect information and the public hearings need to be broadcast to the community.
THE ENTIRE STORY NEEDS TO BE TOLD- COMPLETE AND UNCUT! NAMES NEED TO BE NAMED, ROLES PRESENTED and then everyone will know who did what and why things turned out like they did.
Mt Lebanon is a middle-class community and so many hard working homeowners will face the financial aftermath from all of this - ... the people have a right to know what happened.
8:29 How do you undo the cover-ups that the muni is pulling right now with Elaine's RTK? Also, is there a statute of limitations regarding legal consequences? I think that's part of a great vision for the next commission.
http://www.statebudgetsolutions.org/issues/detail/k-12-education
"Despite the millions of state dollars poured into K-12 education every year, America's school systems are failing to turn out successful students, as a Harvard study showed that U.S. math and reading competency scores fell below the global average. See our study "Throwing Money At Education Isn't Working" to learn what your state is pending, how students there are performing, and how that ranks with the rest of the country."
http://www.statebudgetsolutions.org/publications/detail/throwing-money-at-education-isnt-working
"EXECUTIVE SUMMARY of THROWING MONEY AT EDUCATION ISN'T WORKING"
"Analysis & Solutions
To successfully educate students, sustainable, reliable, and adequate educational funding is necessary. Less clear are the particulars of the spending, especially with regard to other factors that influence student performance. "Throwing money at the problem" is a commonly suggested solution to improving education; in fact, 60 percent of Google results for the search "throwing money" refer to education. But despite vastly increasing levels of funding, money alone does not change education or help to achieve our national education goals."
Still waiting for your left leaning think tank links, 12:01.
I'm not going to make your presentations/case for you.
I'll read your info and see if it changes my opinions.
In a trial, 12:01 would you expect the prosecutor to present the defense's evidence?
9:02pm, I'm not thinking in terms of a legal issue. This is a political problem, not a legal matter. I'd prefer that legal complaints be addressed in the courts.
What I want to see is a fact-finding forum that will truthfully expose what happened.
One of the challenges for the instigators will be their legacy - every time a residents looks at one of their descendants they will remember what these folks did and the mess that everyone was left with.
Elaine has done a wonderful job or trying these political problems in the court of public opinion. These are political problems and they require political solutions.
Mt Lebanon has cleverly channeled all aggression in the community into an unending list of legal questions. A matter as simple as patching a pothole on your street is translated by Mt Lebanon as a legal question that Mt Lebanon quickly answers as a denial of your request. Since they rationalize everything in terms of "the law" and provide their "interpretation" of "the law" they deflect public anger away from the municipality which is exactly where it belongs. DON'T PLAY THIER GAME!
We need political solutions, not legal opinions from the 8% of the Mt Lebanon workforce that practice law.
Yes, be careful on the rankings. Rankings based on PSSA are flawed (besides the fact that in Lebo they teach to the test...amazed for how many weeks they simply teach PSSA prep at the elementary level). Obviously a comparison to PA only. And sorry, the student compete with kids outside of PA. (I know...shock.) I do think the US News rankings take a broader view, though like any ranking it is a bit arbitrary and flawed.
Another interesting note is to look at the SAT scores (on the 2400 scale). Lebo's scores are significantly lower than "high performing" districts in other states.
The reality is that Lebo will continue to send a select number of kids to really great universities. They will also do a good job catching the kids at the bottom. It is the HUGE group of kids in the middle that Lebo will continue to fail with its continued push to mediocrity.
Sorry for the typos and grammar errors...coffee hasn't kicked in yet.
I am so confused about how this can avoid referendum? The tax increase appears to be over Act 1 limits?
8:41 am. I am confused about this comment:
"The reality is that Lebo will continue to send a select number of kids to really great universities. They will also do a good job catching the kids at the bottom. It is the HUGE group of kids in the middle that Lebo will continue to fail with its continued push to mediocrity."
Can you tell me how the MTLSD is catering to a select number of kids that will be admitted to great universities? In teaching to the test, the smart kids are bored stiff, and the gifted kids underserved and under identified. Look at the budget and resources devoted to gifted programs, for example.
There's no acceleration within the district at the elementary level, and extremely weak math acceleration in middle school.
To the first comment, I wonder if the "exceptions" for increased expenses will fall under the "exceptions" categories.
For instance, if salaries and benefits cause the expense side to increase and the bond issue does the same, but the SD asked for exemptions based on pensions, does it matter? Will anyone actually look?
Our math and science programs have been weak for decades.
What is the budget dedicated to gifted students and how many do we have?
Regarding the number of gifted students:
You can go to http://paschoolperformance.org/Search to see the profiles of all schools in PA and within each school, the percentage of gifted students is reported. Some schools in MTLSD have as few as .73% students identified as gifted (Foster), while the highest percentage of gifted students is reported at the high school and JMS (6.5).
If you look at the stats from the other schools listed in the latest rankings of high PSSA scores, you'll see that they provide services to a much greater number of gifted students. USCHS, for example, reports 13.6% gifted students.
Not much has changed over a decade since these articles were written referencing gifted education in Mt Lebanon:
http://old.post-gazette.com/regionstate/20010610giftedmainnewreg2.asp
http://old.post-gazette.com/regionstate/20010611giftedblurbreg3.asp
http://old.post-gazette.com/regionstate/20010611lebogift0611netp4.asp
I have an extremely bored identified gifted student Mt. Lebanon student. I am so disappointed with the lack of acceleration offered at the elementary level and dreading the middle school years. The only info I can get about middle school in Mt. Lebanon is that it is really fun and all the kids love it. I'm a little skeptical. What about the students who are motivated by academic challenges?
Hello...my name is 8:10.
A clarification to my earlier comment. The elementary schools are dreadful for anyone that is ahead. They teach to the middle (PSSAs). And the middle schools are not much better. Some great teachers will do some individual enrichment.
At the high school, kids can take AP classes and, in general, the quality is pretty good. This is what I was referring to in terms of do a good job getting some kids into good schools. Parents play a huge role in this.
FYI: my friends who have had truly gifted kids have opted out of Lebo. Either moved or done the private school thing.
My youngest is gifted. When in high school, we had to hire a private language tutor as my child completed all of the language classes by 10th grade. We were told to take classes at U. Of Pgh.; however, doing so conflicted with completing the rest of the requirements for graduation. My child also took many AP classes as she was so bored in the regular classes. Only good thing was she earned 15 credits for college after she graduated. MLSD needs to do more. The kids in the middle are neglected as well as the Special Ed. kids.
5:33, My kids in the middle did very well and have wonderful jobs. I think you will agree with me when you have middle kids who have finished college. We all worry about our children and a ML education turns out great results. Hang in there for the long run.
Also, nine out of 10 schools ML received a commendation from the Governor for outstanding education. MMS is still working to achieve this honor.
I wish all the best to your children.
If your kid earned 15 college credits on the Lebo dime, why do you think we need to do more? Pay your own college bills. I did.
May I remind Lebo Citizens readers about the April 3rd letter to the editor in the PG. Dr. Margolis wrote:
"President Elaine Cappucci was recently quoted as saying that if the school district did not raise taxes (again), the Mt. Lebanon schools would be “decimated.” Mt. Lebanon has repeatedly raised taxes on its residents over the past several years, either through millage increases or by targeting individual property owners in court for higher tax assessments...
First, Ms. Cappucci’s hyperbolic comment about the state of Mt. Lebanon schools is manipulative and irresponsible. Mt. Lebanon has good teachers and kids who largely have support at home; there is no risk of imminent decimation. Having worked in schools in New York and Detroit, I have seen decimated schools. Kids come to school abused and hungry. Teachers are unsupported and ill-trained. The physical environment is not only unpleasant but dangerous. Mt. Lebanon’s schools will not be decimated if taxes are not raised. It is just that school officials will need to make choices they are not used to making (while 95 percent of school districts around the country would love to be even in their pared-down condition)."
We don't need threats of decimation at budget time.
Elaine
How come we never heard this appeal from the president of PA's largest teachers union discussed by the school board or administration?
Union president calls for freeze of Pa. teachers pay
March 17, 2011 - 12:00 AM
HARRISBURG (AP) — The president of Pennsylvania's largest teachers union called on its members Wednesday to "seriously consider" Gov. Tom Corbett's call for public educators to agree to a one-year pay freeze.
James Testerman of the Pennsylvania State Education Association said he sent a letter to all of the union's locals, urging teachers to enter discussions with school boards about a freeze or other cost-saving measures.
"We have serious concerns about some of Gov. Corbett's proposals, but we want to do our part to ensure that our students' education does not suffer as a result of the worst recession since the Depression," he said.
Corbett spokesman Kevin Harley called Testerman's appeal "an encouraging first step."
http://m.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110317/NEWS90/103170334/0/rss01&template=wapart
No, they'll threaten decimating the district if they don't get more money!
4/13 @ 12:01pm, why don't you ask Capucci or Birks why they only bash Corbett and never ask for compromises from the union or the administrators. Yep, those administrators that took $1,000 bonuses.
Sure there's no agenda in their comments to the public.
6:13. Perhaps the district could simply manage their resources differently so that the needs of "each and every student" are addressed.
You never heard that appeal from the PSEA president because the school board passed a contract before the 2011 announcement that calls for a 4.59% salary increase in next year's budget.
Maybe citizens can suggest potential cutbacks so that the budget isn't decimated. :-)
I wonder if taxpayers can file a grievance?
The managers of our school district need some education.
"How to cut cost and spend less in a Cash-Strapped Business"
Yeah I know, public education has nothing in common with business in the private sector.
Of course it doesn't, it can always 'legally' hold our kids education hostage until we pay up the ransom money!
They have the power of teachers strikes, SB president's threats of decimating the district and the ability to take your home if you don't pay up.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/small-business-book/chapter2-4.html
3:24, Didn't you know that MTSD is all about sports? Who cares about gifted students while most of them focus on sports activities. (FYI, my middle schooler is and has been in gifted program.) Academics are optional activity here in MTL. The academic standard here is pathetic compared to northern VA, NJ. Just sample a few PSSA test, you will see how much money and time we are wasting on this useless test. And yet they are making big deal out of it.
But yes I totally understand you. Don't expect anything special from middle school and be ready to dig around to satisfy your child's needs. If you can afford, private schooling will be a good option. A few of my neighbors send their kids to Shadyside and they are very satisfied.
Good luck.
Face it! Years ago the union stated it was going to get "Its People" elected to the School Board and voters did NOTHING. Lies, omissions and more and here we are with the teachers union and the School Board are one. Now who do you think "They" care about? Hint It isn't the tax paying residents of Mt Lebanon. But here's a stat that you will NEVER get from the School District... How many recent grads failed out during their first year of college? Mom and Dad might be able to get their kid into a school BUT keeping them there is a whole different story.
11:20 some info from a few years back—
"Wednesday, March 11, 2009
High School Grads Not Prepared For Basic Math, English Courses
A Team 4 investigation found that one of every three high school graduates in Pennsylvania who attended a state-owned university or community college this year was not prepared for the most basic math and English courses.
In fact, those students were so unprepared for college that they had to take special remediation classes which cost taxpayers $26 million this year -- and wait until you see the numbers for the school district where you live.
Mt. Lebanon: 23 percent... were not prepared for college."
While we're pondering spending bundles of cash on artificial turf, $74,000 trophy cases, and missing fire sprinklers it would serve us well to remember there is a world beyond our little bubble!
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303663604579503191667905848?ref=/news-opinion-commentary
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-prices-soar-as-incomes-stand-still/
See that CBS News headline, Mr. Steinauer?
"Food prices soar as incomes stand still", I'll bet you and your staff didn't notice what is happening in the real world... did you?
8:56, I did catch on fairly quickly that this wonderful school district is all about athletics. Thank you for confirming my suspicion about middle school. I'm ready to start exploring our options. I don't know if we can just "wait it out" until high school. I appreciate hearing from parent with a gifted student at the middle school level. 3:24
3:24 pm. If you want to share concerns/ideas/resources/stories regarding gifted education in Lebo, email me:
gifteddevils@gmail.com. We are in the same boat.
6:13: I did pay for college for both of my children. My oldest is severely handicapped and really struggled through college. We also paid for tutors for many years for her. She did graduate, but is limited by her illnesses and can only work part time. My taxes did pay for their education while in MLSD.
I am sorry for 6:13's rudeness, 2:20 PM. I had to pay for tutors along the way too.
I wonder how big Timmy's raise will be this year since PBT rated us as number 1. It would have to be bigger than last year's 7.5% increase for the number 2 seat. Who knew that all it took were pizza lunches and many photos of construction workers? For all the superintendents out there reading this blog, take note how Timmy did it. I feel sorry for the kids who can't eat pizza and all the superintendents who actually work for a living.
Elaine
Elaine, When will raises or pay freezes be announced based on your knowledge from previous years?
Middle of June for secretaries, administrators, custodians, etc. Administrators getting average increase of 3%
Timmy's contract is from July 1, 2014 through June 30, 2019. They will probably tell us in late summer what Timmy's raise will be. It is always retroactive.
[6.9%] 7.46% increase for Timmy His goals for the year come out in November, months after his raise goes into effect.
Elaine
Hi Elaine,
The Almanac today says the USC Act 1 millage increase is 2.1%.
We have had the same increase historically.
Blog comments are quoting 1.7% instead of 2.1%.
Most of us paid for tutors, Elaine, because the teachers didn’t properly educate our kids. So why is a K-12 school paying for credits for college. Remember you are the one who is leading the charge against higher taxes
9:27 The high school is not paying for college credits. Kids take AP (advanced placement) courses at the high school and then with excellent AP test results, they can, in some cases, obtain college credit for the courses. This is a widely used practice and has been for decades.
I paid for math tutors in addition to all the school taxes, really, wtf??
Fanfare and party hats, along with pizza lunches, really put things over the top. Parents dont care what's going on until they have to explain why their kid flunked out college. That's why cretins keep getting elected to the school board.
Paying for college credit in a K-12 school is another example of freeloading parents, just like the deadbeat athletic supporters. It is all about employment of more teachers by an irresponsible board and administration who allow teachers to slack off in their jobs then get paid by parents a second time to tutor their kids. The math department is one of the worst.
10:06-The district is not directly paying for college credits but they (we) are paying the salaries of the teachers who teach the AP classes.
1:17 So if kids are qualified for 1 or more AP classes in high school, the district has choice: let them be bored stiff without a challenging class or provide them with the AP class.
The law promotes a free and appropriate education.
Yes 2:37 the law does, but then why are we instituting fees for everything?
If these kids are so bright let them graduate at 16 and send them to Princeton on the parent's dime. We don't need to pay for AP classes so parents don't pay for college.
7:12: There's no need to be rude. Students get college credit for AP classes with a score if 5. It's. It's not a matter of freeloading parents. The districts does not pay the college. Any student can take AP classes and to sign up for the the test. It's up to the parents to encourage their kids to do so which in turn helps reduce college costs. Yiou are very much misinformed.
7:12 The parents or student pay for the AP test and they pay for college. The AP classes are helpful for college preparation. Do you have something against college preparation? I agree with you that MTLSD is out of control with spending but I don't think it's a good idea to drop AP classes. For goodness sakes, they could very well be the most honest experience of academics offered in this town.
MLSD doesn't write a check for college tuition but we do write checks for teachers salaries, healthcare, and pensions. The cost to ML is the same as paying parents' college costs even if you don't like the reality 7:52 and 9:12.
The school district could not remain competitive with other districts if they were to drop AP classes. It is their out of control spending and the "Show and Tell" with the sports program that interferes with the level of quality in the academic offering to the students in Mt. Lebanon. It is a pervasive lack of leadership, shortsightedness, greediness, and self-absorption that is bringing down Mt. Lebanon.
9:23 PM, enough. We have a fake budget aproved by the superintendent who makes $175,000 a year. The budget is padded every year and you're picking on parents? How about channeling your anger toward our crooked administration?
Elaine
*approved.
Elaine
9:23: I'm in reality. Stop picking on parents. Go after the administration. Your anger is misdirected!
I said enough, 11:25 PM. I am not publishing anymore of your comments about this. Everyone knows who you are. Deadbeat athletic supporters, freeloaders, defending Timmy. Gee, who could you be? Funny how you criticized people who wouldn't sign their names.
Reread the thread, "11:25 PM." You are waaaay off topic.
Elaine
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