To: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Cc: kmcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>; alauth <alauth@mtlebanon.org>
Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2016 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: Bait
My findings are not public information.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:
SECOND REQUESTTony,
According to Susan Morgans, all the baiting has concluded in today's article in The Almanac. http://www.thealmanac.net/20160308/details_for_mt_lebanon_sharpshooting_limited_for_safety_reasons
"“The baiting has concluded,” Morgans said."
As of February 28, you were going to give it another week to sort out the best method for baiting and what type of mechanical feeder you are using to distribute the bait. I understand that it is an art, rather than a science. You were going to get back to me. Keith was going to get back to me.
I have also asked Manager Keith McGill and he was going to ask you. I hope he has followed through. Now, I read that the baiting has concluded. What kind of bait have you decided to go with and what type of mechanical feeder did you use?
Elaine Gillen
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From: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
To: tony.denicola <tony.denicola@whitebuffaloinc.org>
Cc: kmcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>; alauth <alauth@mtlebanon.org>
Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2016 12:54 pm
Subject: Re: Bait
Tony,
It's been a week since we last exchanged emails. Any news on what type of bait and what type of mechanical feeders that you are using? According to the permit, you have had six weeks to bait so far. Are you still sorting out the best method?
Elaine Gillen
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From: Anthony DeNicola <tony.denicola@whitebuffaloinc.org>
To: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Cc: kmcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>; alauth <alauth@mtlebanon.org>
Sent: Sun, Feb 28, 2016 7:53 am
Subject: Re: Bait
Elaine,
No problem at all. I am still assessing how well our mechanical feeders are working at timing deer arrival times with some different baits. We are trying to get the deer to come predictably after dark, so that is very difficult.
I will give it another week or so. We still have plenty of time before the permit expires at the end of March.
Tony
On Sunday, February 28, 2016, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:
Tony,I did a quick search and found this on Field and Stream's website. http://www.fieldandstream.com/answers/quick-tips/if-you-want-deer-bait-will-drive-deer-crazy-try-grape-kool-aid-guy-dnr-gave-me-ti"They also like peanut butter, apples, syrup, and pretty much anything else you would feed a five year old according to other posts. Good luck with the kool-aid. I'm sticking with corn."We were told that you started baiting over a month ago. I'm am trying not to sound snarky, but sincerely, I would think you would have some idea as to what bait has worked and what mechanism you are using to distribute it by now. Do you have an estimate as to when you will have it sorted out? This week? Next week?Respectfully,Elaine Gillen
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From: Anthony DeNicola <tony.denicola@whitebuffaloinc.org>
To: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Cc: kmcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>; alauth <alauth@mtebanon.org>; alauth <alauth@mtlebanon.org>
Sent: Sat, Feb 27, 2016 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: Bait
We are still sorting out the best method. Once we have better data I will let you know.
Tony
On Saturday, February 27, 2016, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:
Yes, thank you for your response, Tony. I can understand that bait is a regional thing. From what I've learned at commission meetings, Mt. Lebanon deer are not picky eaters. So what did you end up using here? Also, what method of distributing the bait are you using?
Thanks in advance for your clarification.
I had originally made a mistake typing Aaron's email, so I have added his correct (I hope!) email address. Sorry about that, Aaron.
Elaine Gillen
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From: Anthony DeNicola <tony.denicola@whitebuffaloinc.org>
To: Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
Cc: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>; alauth <alauth@mtebanon.org>
Sent: Fri, Feb 26, 2016 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: Bait
Keith,Baiting is more of an art than a science. We use a multitude of options depending on what the local deer seem to prefer most, what is available, and relative cost. It can be apples, deer feed, corn, alpha pellets, etc. We place bait out at each location where we are active, primarily on private properties throughout the municipality typically several weeks in advance of getting started whether it is for capture purposes or for lethal management programs.I hope this helps,Tony
Anthony J. DeNicola Ph.D. | President | White Buffalo Inc.M: (860) 790-0224 | tony.denicola@whitebuffaloinc.org
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On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org> wrote:
KeithGood afternoon Elaine,Aaron did provide a response and indicated that someone from White Buffalo would be a better source to provide a response. I am copying Tony DeNicola on this response. I'm sure Tony can provide a response.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:27 PM, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:
Keith,
Were you able to get in touch with Aaron or Mike concerning my bait questions? What kind of bait and now is it being distributed?Elaine Gillen
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Anthony J. DeNicola Ph.D. | President | White Buffalo Inc.
6 comments:
I don't get it. How will WB's gunners attract the deer if they stopped baiting?
The nice weather is attracting the general public to use the parks, inhibiting the deer harvest attempts.
Morgans said, "They are not going to do anything to jeopardize their professional credibility."
Hello? Doesn't collecting $80,000 to sit on your butt instead of shooting deer jeopardize professional credibility?
Morgans said, "They are not going to do anything to jeopardize their professional credibility." Shouldn't the idea be that "they are not going to do anything to jeopardize the safety of the Mt. Lebanon residents"? Did anyone else find this statement by Morgans odd (but very telling)?
It would be super if people would email these questions to the commission and municipal manager. I filed another RTK for the type of bait and the method that it is being used to distribute the bait.
I find it odd that it is a safety issue to answer people's questions, but it is not a safety issue to keep the golf course open while shooting. It is not a safety issue to start shooting 30 minutes after elementary school children get out of school. It is not a safety issue to shoot next to safe walking routes. It is not a safety issue to hide the locations of the four to six properties being used for killing deer.
Elaine
If nothing is the tax payers ' business, maybe the private property owners should foot the bill every year.
Wonder if they're privy to information that isn't considered public.
Remember, WB keeps saying there are no safety issues, due to their track record. Until there is one, that is.
What other municipality slaughters deer for most of the year?
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