Sunday, June 21, 2015

Stacking the deck UPDATED

Tomorrow evening, Mt. Lebanon residents have been invited to observe the deer "management" meeting at Mt. Lebanon High School Fine Arts Theatre. Doing a search of one of the invited experts, Jeannine Fleegle, I came across this article on the United Sportsmen of Pennsylvania website.

DEER MANAGEMENT SERIES, NO. 6: STACKING THE DECK
PGC Hired Three Deer Biologists who were all Trained at Chesapeake
Farms to Eliminate Deer Impacts by Eliminating Deer
By John Eveland
June 18, 2014 
Historically, foresters and environmentalists have long sought to dramatically reduce Pennsylvania's state mammal. It was always understood, however, that their goal was nothing more than a wishful dream. That is, until 1998 when the Green Certification circumstance removed deer management from the realm of science and made it a political issue that could financially benefit DCNR. Realizing the reality of deer reduction, following the departure of Gary Alt, PGC's chief of wildlife management quickly stacked the deck with a like-minded next-generation of deer biologists. In 2010, PGC's Board of Commissioners requested that the author of this article investigate this rumor. The following facts were uncovered.
PGC's Chesapeake Farms Connection. The Pennsylvania Game Commission lists three staff deer biologists (Chris Rosenberry, Bret Wallingford, and Jeannine Fleegle,) who report to Calvin DuBrock, Director of the Wildlife Management Bureau; and Robert Boyd, Bureau Assistant Director. It can be no coincidence that of the myriad accredited university degree programs throughout the nation which regularly produce thousands of professional wildlife biologists, that all three deer biologists employed by the PGC attained their graduate degrees from the same college (North Carolina State University), were mentored by the same NC State advisory staff members, and conducted their thesis deer research at the same small 5-square-mile Chesapeake Farms agricultural demonstration area on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. Their principal advisors were Richard Lancia and Mark Connor, Director of Chesapeake Farms, who lists his research interests as "population ecology and management especially white-tailed deer, management of crop damage by deer, and wildlife in agro-ecosystems".
At Chesapeake Farms, PGC's three deer biologists were trained in a deer management philosophy called Quality Deer Management—reducing deer impacts accomplished by increasing antlerless harvests toward decreasing herd size. Whereas students from most university wildlife degree programs are educated to view deer as an asset to the natural ecosystem and society, PGC's three deer biologists were trained in a setting that views deer as a negative impact-causing element with little to no emphasis placed on the value of deer, the tradition of recreational hunting, and sportsmen. Hence, PGC's deer biologists brought with them from Chesapeake Farms a wildlife management philosophy that was better suited for private organizations such as Audubon and the Sierra Club than for a traditional state game management agency.
Fleegle wrote in her thesis, "More than any other wildlife, deer are perceived to cause the most damage to crops." In like fashion, Rosenberry wrote, "Balancing white-tailed deer impacts is the fundamental issue affecting a majority of Pennsylvania's deer management decisions." Former Executive Director, Carl Roe, epitomized the deer team's negative view of deer and sportsmen when he told the Governor's Council for Hunting, Fishing, and Conservation that hunters are of no concern in deer management.
Conclusion. It is not likely that Calvin DuBrock could have succeeded for over a decade in decimating the Commonwealth's deer herd if he had not hired like-minded staffers to perpetuate the action. The three deer biologists and those in the PGC who hired them have adopted the deer reduction philosophy of Chesapeake Farms (eliminating deer impacts by eliminating deer), and appear to be using Chesapeake Farms as a template to systematically convert the state to this system. It is, therefore, evident that PGC's deer biologists were not hired to manage Pennsylvania's deer herd in the best interest of the resource or sportsmen, or to pursue the PGC's mission for recreational hunting as prescribed by state law. Instead, it appears that they were specifically hired to decimate the herd. This they have achieved.
Continuing my search, I found this article on Outdoor News' site. Agency’s article about deer insulted some state hunters
At their recent quarterly meeting here, commissioners heard a complaint about the story, authored by Jeannine Fleegle in the August issue of Pennsylvania Game News. 
Randy Santucci, president of the Unified Sportsmen, claimed the piece was “disrespectful” and “essentially spit in the face of sportsmen.”
Once again, we have hunters and PETA on the same side!

Back to Google. Deer hater and former commissioner Kristen Linfante did a radio show, Oh Deer! Deer Overpopulation,with Jeannine Fleegle back on August 2, 2012. The topic was deer overpopulation. Deer hater Kristen Linfante resigned in the spring from the commission citing health problems and was replaced by deer hater and former commissioner Coleen Vuono.

John Hayes, chief deer population estimator of thousands, interviewed Ms. Fleegle in 2010. He also reported that Upper St. Clair ended their deer culling operations in 2009. Can we believe him? He is as misinformed as our PIO. I believe that is a prerequisite to be a member of Morgans' media circus. Former public works director and "too old for this bullshit" Tom Kelley hated deer. He made John Hayes' article. He's gone too.

Come on, Mt. Lebanon. See what is being presented to us. The commissioners have no idea how many deer we have. They are relying on "experts" whose livelihood is killing deer. Our tax dollars are paying deer haters, both commissioners and staff. They are hiring deer killers with our tax dollars. I have nothing to gain by this. I am not being paid. We don't know how many deer we have. The commission has never proven that we have a deer problem. They have resorted to a bogus deer "incident" report containing erroneous information. There is something definitely wrong when hunters and PETA are on the same side.

And as John Hayes said today, leave your signs at home when you observe tomorrow's farce.

Update June 22, 2015 9:51 AM There will be a protest in front of the high school tonight at 5:30 PM. Bring a sign. Then take it with you to the deer killing meeting. It is your constitutional right, Folks.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

The irony of Hayes making a living under the protection of First Amendment rights yet asserting that taxpaying Americans don't have the right to express themselves in a public venue for which they foot the bill? Is that the best the PG can do?

Anonymous said...

Is that assertion by Hayes or the municipality of Mt. Lebo?

Anonymous said...

At Dupont's Chesapeake Farms, they use electric fences to keep deer away from the sunflowers they are growing for birds.

Here's how they explain it:

"Because we plant these sunflowers specifically for birds, we use an electric fence to exclude deer from the sunflower plot. This single-strand electric fence effectively limits access by deer so that the sunflowers can produce plenty of seed for birds. Although the deer could easily jump the fence or crawl under it, the shock they receive on their first encounter with the fence appears to make them avoid the area. Electric fences like these can help farmers protect valuable crops on a small scale and at a reasonable price. You may see this type of fence elsewhere on Chesapeake Farms where we wish to exclude deer from crops planted for research purposes or to provide food for waterfowl in the fall and winter".

http://www2.dupont.com/Production_Agriculture/en_US/knowledge_center/ChesapeakeFarmsTour.html

There's no question about it: THE GARDENERS SHOULD USE ELECTRIC FENCES TO PROTECT THEIR TULIPS, LET THE REST OF MT LEBANON LIVE IN PEACE, AND PUT OUR TAX DOLLARS TO USE ON OVERDUE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

Lebo Citizens said...

The question about electric fences was raised during the Sandy Baker seminar. Electric fences ARE legal in Mt. Lebanon.
I do not want to see deer running around with festering wounds and arrows stuck in them. I saw a beautiful buck on Election Night with an arrow stuck in it. It was quite disturbing. Parents, sit back and do nothing. Mt. Lebanon, it's coming.
Elaine

Anonymous said...

Didn't DeNicola say that with bow hunting, he misses 50% of the time? I wonder where those missed arrows end up?

Why would parents of school age children not be storming the municipal building at the mere mention of killing in our parks?

Anonymous said...

Once more, why are the commissioners even discussing the deer topic? I guess it's much easier than governing. I mean, if killing deer wasn't downright creepy, all this fuss would be downright silly.

Anonymous said...

Do you mean that deer aren't slaughtered at DuPont farm? Here's what I am getting at---- if the DuPont don't kill deer, then wow, it's inconceivable to me that any place kills deer.

Anonymous said...

Elaine, I think you are misinterpreting much of the bigger picture of Pa deer management in this blog post. It gets VERY confusing, and you have to have a good understand of the long history of the mismanagement of deer in Pa.

Animal protection and any truly conservation minded organizations are DEFIANTLY NOT on the same side of Randy Santucci and the United Sportsmen of PA, and this article authored by John Eveland, a member of the United Sportsmen of PA, give a totally biased view of "deer management" in Pa.

In addition, animal protection organizations are also DEFIANTLY NOT on the same side of Gary Alt, the previous Deer Mgt. Director at the Pa Game Commission (PGC), or these next generation PGC wildlife biologists.

That said, Gary Alt, and this next generation of PGC wildlife biologists are a major improvement over the vision of deer mgt. that the United Sportsmen of PA promote.

I don't have time to go into great detail, but when Gary Alt came on board, he made an effort to bring the ratio of male to female deer back into better alignment, and to lower the deer population into better compatibility with available habitat. In addition, he established antler restrictions to give the male deer a chance to live beyond one year of life, and a chance to mature into trophy bucks for his hunter constituents.

This upset the United Sportsmen and they sued the PGC and lost. They oppose all of Gary Alt's initiatives, because they don't want any regulations that will reduce the deer population at all. They want as many deer targets as possible for their hunter constituents to shoot at and kill. They don't care about trying to maintain a healthy and balanced deer species and gene pool, or bringing deer into balance with available habitat.

The PGC runs an antiquated blood sport deer killing business masquerading as "deer conservation", and the United Sportsmen are their hunter constituents. Animal protection organizations and true conservation minded organization are not on the same side of either of these groups.

This article below in the Pittsburgh Tribune Review reveals what's behind the curtain, in their own words.

http://triblive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/regional/s_285817.html#axzz3FmRMSdyE

"In an interview a few years ago, Gary Alt described how he felt when he took the job as director of the PGC's deer management section. He looked at the history of deer mgt in the state and saw that every biologist who had ever suggested lowering the number of deer to a level more compatible with the amount of available habitat had been fired, transferred or quit. On the verge of offering similar advice of his own ... 'I thought, My God, I'm going to get killed.' ...When Alt was traveling the state doing lectures for sportsmen, things were so hot that he was advised to wear a bulletproof vest and have an escape route planned for any hall he entered."

Lebo Citizens said...

Thank you for the clarification, 6:52 PM. However, we had hunters and PETA standing side by side at the last protests. Both sides were against killing deer in Mt. Lebanon. I see it happening again.
Elaine

Anonymous said...

6:52---Elaine is right. There are also issues in connection with the deer kills that the commission has never addressed, such as the very high population density in Mt. Lebanon. It is much higher than neighboring communities that may shoot deer.
Think of the deer kill in Mt. Lebanon just like opening fire in Kennywood. Bad idea.

Anonymous said...

Real men don't hunt in neighborhood parks.

Lebo Citizens said...

Sometimes a troll says too much and gives himself away. I have received quite a few comments over the weekend from the trolls. I noticed a pattern. The trolls happen to be prokill and can't wait until I go underground.

Like our newest commissioner, I too have a life. The next few days are going to be hectic for me, so I won't have time to verify invite requests. I know that may be disappointing to some, but I will be keeping the blog public for now. Throw in Susan's media circus and the trolls' preoccupation with the status of the blog, it will be whopper of a week.
Elaine

Anonymous said...

Elaine (7:01 pm) the hunters that were standing side by side protesting with PETA members at the Mt. Lebanon protests did not want to "hunt" and kill deer in Mt. Lebanon's parks and back yards. On the other hand, Randy Santucci of the United Sportsmen of PA wants to "hunt" and kill deer in Mt. Lebanon. He came to a Mt. Lebanon Commission meeting and offered his bow hunting killing services. So Randy Santucci and the United Sportsmen of Pa, which represents fewer than 1% of PA hunters, are not on the same side of PETA or the hunters protesting with us against hunting, bait-and-shoot, and corral and shooting deer in Mt. Lebanon.

I put quotation marks around "hunt" in Mt. Lebanon's parks and back yards, because killing tame deer that walk right up to you can hardly be called hunting. This is a cowardly act carried out by cowards.

The United Sportsmen of Pa have sued the Pa Game Commission three times and lost three times, complaining that there aren't enough deer for them to shoot at and kill in Pennsylvania.

Lebo Citizens said...

OK, now I understand. Thanks, 12:14 AM.
Elaine

Lebo Citizens said...

Seriously, Susan, is the PIO getting any work done today? I'm sure you have called in the National Guard or the SWAT team by now. Bringing signs to the meeting. Oh, the humanity! Through a RTK, I saw that you beefed up security for the riotous toxic turf meeting a year ago. And you know how out of control that meeting was, right Susan?
Elaine

Anonymous said...

Send in the Pinkerton men, Susan. You know how raucous the anti-violence people can be.

Anonymous said...

matthew santoni is live tweeting from the fine arts theatre tonight -- and it is theatre he is documenting.